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[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 0 points 7 minutes ago

I don't see how getting more people interested in ancient history and geology is a bad thing. Part of the reason Graham has the wiggle room to make the claims that he makes is that the subject is relatively unstudied.

Obviously there is actual science taking place in the field and has been forever but funding for that kind of thing is notoriously difficult to come by compared to many other fields. Getting grants to study the distant past for essentially no reason other than curiosity is not a priority within an economic system that prioritizes profit over all else. The best way to break through that particular obstacle is getting more people to pay attention and ask questions. If we need a benign conspiracy theory about "big geology" hiding the truth from us to make that happen then where's the harm in that? The vast majority of people prone to conspiratorial thinking are already farther down that rabbit hole than Hancock's ideas will take them.

Additionally, actual scientists would do well to learn something from Graham about presentation. Despite what you may think of him, the way he talks about the subject resonates with people. People don't want hear a regurgitation of facts in a research paper. Speculate a bit and get people excited about your future work. You don't need to go to the extremes that he does but don't refuse to branch out from what can be conclusively proven today either. Talk about your theories and what you're hoping to find / learn just as much as you talk about the results of your research.

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Fffffffffff… :(

[-] Subtracty@lemmy.world 89 points 5 hours ago

This is the danger of celebrity endorsement. It will bring so much more attention to an unworthy 'cause', and so many fans will now absorb this information without critical thought. It is truly a situation where a well-intentioned person does not know enough to understand that this supposed expert is talking nonsense and the world at large slips that much further into disinformation.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 18 points 5 hours ago

Is it disinformation or merely misinformation here? The former seems to imply someone knowing what they are talking about but lying to the recipient, while the latter is someone clueless what even they themselves are saying.

Oh, but maybe you meant that falling for the misinformation opens people up to therefore be more receptive to actual disinformation.

Either way I thought I would share that I was being tripped up by that word, in case that feedback helps you to reach a wider audience without having to encounter such barriers.

[-] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

Thank you for taking the time to write this out so eloquently.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 1 points 1 hour ago

And thank you for making me feel welcomed:-)

[-] Subtracty@lemmy.world 21 points 3 hours ago

I was torn between the use of misinformation and disinformation. And comments on Lemmy are often speaking into a void, so I honestly did not think it would matter. I appreciate the clarification and agree that misinformation is more appropriate. But agree that falling for misinformation leads to disinformation.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 14 points 3 hours ago

Comments in Lemmy are also sometimes like talking to a spiky wall, so I am glad that you took this in the spirit that I intended!:-)

At least it's not Taylor Swift.

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[-] scrooge@infosec.pub 61 points 6 hours ago

I'm out of the loop, who is the guy?

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 123 points 5 hours ago

Keanu Reeves is an actor who has starred in a number of popular movies including Speed, The Matrix, and John Wick. He is revered in the online community for being a wholesome person who tends to do the better thing, or at least avoids being terrible.

So if he is actually supports the charlatan who made this series then that would be disappointing.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 61 points 4 hours ago

Ah! The old Lemmaroo!

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 100 points 5 hours ago

Reverse nepotism baby that wants to play archaeologist on Netflix. He's also extremely paranoid that "big archaeology" (lmao) is out to get him because he cannot handle criticism from people that know what they're talking about. Tldr weirdo on Netflix that thinks he's a martyr.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 27 minutes ago

Damn minions of orthodoxy, I'll keep my cells from getting bored and then what?

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 hours ago
[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 7 points 1 hour ago

msitopen esrever

[-] norimee@lemmy.world 32 points 3 hours ago

Ha, now I wanna watch it. Might be fun if you treat it like it's Cunk on Earth.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 43 points 5 hours ago

reverse nepobaby? How does that work? His kid gave birth to him and then hired him?

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 83 points 5 hours ago

His son works for Netflix and got him a show.

[-] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 17 points 3 hours ago

Wouldn't that be "nepo daddy"

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 53 points 5 hours ago
[-] match@pawb.social 13 points 4 hours ago

nepo reverse-baby, then

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[-] slickgoat@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

Don't have a boat in this race, but banning him from otherwise open historical sites because they don't like his ideas is not scientific, but more like the mediaeval Catholic church.

Science is full of bigoted thinking as any other discipline. If you don't already know this, you have never met a scientist.

Having said all that, it is a silly idea, but I enjoy the incidental geology that he employs to illustrate his argument. Not that I buy into the argument itself.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 46 minutes ago* (last edited 45 minutes ago)

My recent favorite is anthropology ignoring all evidence of women hunting because it didn't fit social morals of the researchers. Even finding women buried with shields and weapons and people still making excuses.

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[-] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 25 points 5 hours ago

Who was ever turning to Keanu for scientific knowledge? Lost him? We never had him! Chill dude, entertaining actor, but absolutely wrong person for science.

[-] Digital_man@lemmy.one 27 points 6 hours ago
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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 18 points 5 hours ago
[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 18 points 5 hours ago

Unfortunately.

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