Journalist Ken Klippenstein booted from X after publishing the Iranian hacked JD Vance Dossier. : chapotraphouse

[-] macerated_baby_presidents@hexbear.net 35 points 3 months ago

interesting read. my takes

as always, heartwarming to see that the republican party recognizes that much of their platforms are tremendously unpopular (at least with "moderates"): covid denial, cutting social security, opposing student loan forgiveness, opposing abortion, ties with alex jones / etc all specifically called out as problems with Vance
they're awfully worried about JD's tucker carlson-like Strasserism. He says he supports unions, especially US domestic manufacturing, because they will make the nuclear family stronger or whatever, and opposes globalization. I think this might be compatible with like, Teamsters type right-unionism of the type we've seen recently, and certainly JD thinks a realignment will happen and is pushing to get it. But I'm not really sure why Trump's team in particular would be worried about this - I thought his whole thing was representing domestic and industrial capital, in opposition to international/finance/tech capital from the Dems and traditional Republicans. Maybe the Trump business base is content with its current path
I find his right-wing class struggle language very scary

[-] regul@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago

The right-unionism is incompatible with the big-business base.

It's the same reason Republicans will never do anything to completely stop visa-less immigration: they want downward pressure on wages.

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[-] macerated_baby_presidents@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

It rings true since it's based on a smidge of material analysis, and the superficial similarity with leftists steals our momentum (dragging us back at the moment, but attempting to hitch a ride when there's another Bernie type wave). Protofascist IMO. Vance correctly identifies that there is a bourgeoisie that controls the USA, and that ordinary people should instinctually oppose this, but he draws the lines of the classes such that the "elite" contains people like journalists and nurses, and the "real Americans" includes himself and ski-doo dealership owners and such. This is not new rhetoric, but Vance is actually doing a little analysis so it works well.

For instance, he says that the reason illegal immigration exists is because all the business owners - many of them Democrats - profit from illegal immigration. The low wages paid for under-the-table work push down the wages paid to citizens. That's true! It's convincing, it's material. But Vance goes on to say that the way to stop this phenomenon is not for workers to band together to force business owners to pay them high wages no matter the supply of labor, or even just to make immigration (functionally) legal again so immigrant labor isn't so cheap, but to keep immigration (functionally) illegal but just make the border even more deadly.

[-] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 3 months ago

in getting him banned from twitter, Iran has done more for Ken Klippenstein's mental health than the American healthcare system ever did

[-] Homer_Simpson@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago

1858 William Howard Taft Road, Cincinnati, OH, Hamilton County

This is the primary residence owned by J.D. Vance and his wife, Usha, through a holding company, 1858 Taft Road LLC. This single-family residence comprises four bedrooms and four- and-a-half bathrooms and has a 2023 total value of $1,365,490. Vance and his wife have owned the property since June 2018 and transferred the property to their holding company in December 2020

This property is said to have been part of the underground railroad. https://www.wcpo.com/home/home-tour/home-tour-this-1858-house-overlooking-the-ohio-river-comes-with-rich-lore-and-rich-trappings

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

Of course its owned by a holding company

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

Klippenstein published the 271-page report compiled by the Trump campaign to vet Vance, now the Republican nominee’s running mate, on his Substack.

[-] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

The Iranian connection seems like bullshit. Like they just made it up because iran bad.

[-] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago

Almost like when someone dumped Podesta's emails and liberals didn't care about a thing because "evil Russia wanted us to see those"

[-] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah, seems all made up, those leaks weren't Russian either from what I remember.

[-] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

Nah there was spurious bullshit that was used to convince liberals they came from Russia but that was it. Like some file or another had Russian language in it or something so the brain geniusesc were like "wow it must havex been Russia!"

But even if Russia supplied the leaks the ultimate source was podesta's own fucking gmail account

[-] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

And the liberals are still mad. This is the same sort of thing but with iran. The leaker hopes that trump will have a more anti iran posture when he wins.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

Didn't they do this in the UK with some leaked document about how the Tories were planning to sell off the NHS to American health insurance companies or something? Corbyn talked about it but he just got told off for playing into Russian hands

[-] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

I think Iran just really doesn’t want Trump to be President.

[-] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

Perhaps, but I doubt they see a meaningful difference. I doubt they are involved in this leak at all. Just like Russia was not involved in the other one. I think by blaming the leak on iran they made trump more anti Iranian. So that the us deep state interests are secured no mater who wins.

[-] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

I mean Trump is the guy who destroyed the Nuclear Deal and killed their top general.
I wouldn’t find it odd for them to take it personally.

[-] Formerlyfarman@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

The thing is, Obama wasn't following the nuclear deal either, and even if he had, the sanctions really started to kick in during the Obama era, then there is ISIS, Yemen, etc, Obama was much worse.

[-] wild_dog@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

it doesn't line up with the amount of restraint they've exhibited with Israel. Trying to influence the election is just the sort of thing that will get both parties to back an Iranian-Israeli conflict even harder

[-] Homer_Simpson@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/read-the-jd-vance-dossier

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[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

Lmao

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[-] christian@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Needing to use "The Le Epic prefix" is absolutely not necessary because it's too much investment into regularly acknowledging and sharing an opinion on the dumb idea when you can just call it twitter like most people still do and be done with it. If you need to think of that as resistance, you still can! The guy really seems like the type to be more peeved about people ignoring his ideas than denouncing them.

You don't need to respond to an instance of someone referring to the platform as "x" with a statement on how you feel about it, you can just call it twitter when you yourself talk about it. Whether it's because you actually don't care or because you want to be the change and all that, either way it will make your life a little easier.

[-] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

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