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articleThe pro-Palestinian group that sparked the student encampment movement at Columbia University in response to the Israel-Hamas war is becoming more hard-line in its rhetoric, openly supporting militant groups fighting Israel and rescinding an apology it made after one of its members said the school was lucky he wasn’t out killing Zionists.

“We support liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance,” the group, Columbia University Apartheid Divest, said in its statement revoking the apology. The group marked the anniversary of the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by distributing a newspaper with a headline that used Hamas’s name for it: “One Year Since Al-Aqsa Flood, Revolution Until Victory” it read, over a picture of Hamas fighters breaching the security fence to Israel. And in an essay, it called the Oct. 7 attack a “moral, military and political victory,” and quoted Ismail Haniyeh, the assassinated former political leader of Hamas.

“The Palestinian resistance is moving their struggle to a new phase of escalation and it is our duty to meet them there,” the group wrote on Oct. 7 on Telegram. “It is our duty to fight for our freedom!” The group’s increasingly radical statements are being mirrored by pro-Palestinian groups on other college campuses, including in a series of social media posts this week that praised the Oct. 7 attack. They also reflect the influence of more extreme protest groups off campus, like Within Our Lifetime, that support violent attacks against Israel.

“Long live October 7th,” Nerdeen Kiswani, the head of Within Our Lifetime, wrote on X on Tuesday.

Image Nerdeen Kiswani, the founder of Within Our Lifetime, holds up her arms in the middle of a crowd of protesters, many wearing kaffiyehs.

Within Our Lifetime, a group founded by Nerdeen Kiswani, center, supports violent attacks against Israel. It is increasingly influential on campuses.Credit...Adam Gray for The New York Times

The rhetoric poses a challenge to university administrators who must decide how to handle students and student groups that take such positions. Their statements are broadly protected under the First Amendment but could lead to federal investigations into campus antisemitism or on campus discipline if they are deemed to create a hostile environment for Jewish students.

“Statements advocating for violence or harm are antithetical to the core principles upon which this institution was founded,” said Ben Chang, a spokesman for Columbia.

Oren Segal, vice president of the A.D.L. Center on Extremism, said that there were chants and other messages “filled with support for terrorist organizations” at many of the over 100 protests the organization tracked on and off campuses around the country marking the anniversary of Oct. 7.

“I mean, literally, there were images of paragliders,” he said, and added, “There were multiple chants of glory to the resistance.”

The Oct. 7 attack on Israel by Hamas killed about 1,200 people, according to Israeli authorities, and about 250 hostages were taken. Many hostages have died or been killed. Since the start of the war, more than 40,000 people in Gaza have been killed, according to local health officials. The majority of the people were civilians, and hundreds of thousands more have faced starvation.

Some students who have sympathy for pro-Palestinian student actions last semester disagree with the hard-line turn in the movement. In interviews at Columbia and Barnard last week, several students said that between student activists’ harsher stances, and the threats of punishment from administrators for participating in protests, their desire to protest has lessened.

“I think this whole situation and the way that it’s been handled on my campus has absolutely no eye for nuance,” said Bellajeet Sahota, a Barnard senior, who added she was “a little meek when it comes to campus protests.”

“I also think my fellow students, as much as I love them, also have no eye for nuance,” she said.

Students for Justice in Palestine, a pro-Palestinian student group that has chapters at hundreds of colleges across the country, was among the groups whose members posted praise for the Oct. 7 attack. “Al-Aqsa Flood was a historic act of resistance against decades of occupation, apartheid, and settler colonial violence,” the Brown chapter of Students for Justice in Palestine posted on Instagram.

The increasingly revolutionary tilt of the student movement reflects an internal push among many pro-Palestinian groups to align their goals with principles known as the Thawabet, crafted by the Palestine Liberation Organization in 1977. They include the right of Palestinians to armed resistance and to self-determination on all the land from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea.

In a series of posts on Substack, Columbia University Apartheid Divest, or CUAD, narrated its own evolution since last semester from an organization that saw itself in April as a “continuation of the Vietnam antiwar movement” focused on pushing Columbia to divest from Israel to one that now openly backs armed resistance by Hamas and other groups.

Citing revolutionary thinkers, like Vladimir Lenin and Frantz Fanon, it explained how solidarity was essential with members of the so-called Axis of Resistance — which includes Iran, Hezbollah, the Houthis and Hamas — because they oppose imperialism.

Since then, the group has praised a Tel Aviv attack by Palestinian militants that killed seven people at a light rail station on Oct. 1, including a mother who died while shielding her 9-month-old baby. It also praised Iran’s missile attack on the Jewish state that began that evening, calling it a “bold move.”

On Tuesday, the group said it rescinded an apology it made last spring about the behavior of Khymani James, a student who had said in a disciplinary hearing that “Zionists don’t deserve to live,” and, “Be grateful that I’m not just going out and murdering Zionists.”

“We let you down,” the group wrote in a statement, referring to Mr. James. No longer, the group vowed, would it “pander to liberal media to make the movement for liberation palatable.”

Mr. James, who is suing Columbia over his ongoing suspension, thanked the group. “I will not allow anyone to shame me for my politics,” he wrote on social media. “Anything I said, I meant it.”

Students for Justice in Palestine and Jewish Voice for Peace remain suspended at Columbia, but are active on social media. Some of their members organize through CUAD, which is not an officially recognized student group.

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[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 78 points 1 month ago

Columbia University Apartheid Divest has withdrawn an apology it made last spring for a member who said “Zionists don’t deserve to live.”

Lmao

[-] Finger@hexbear.net 52 points 1 month ago

no more half measures walter

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 49 points 1 month ago

you-think-this-is-funny You're laughing, they said Zionists don't deserve to live and you're laughing.

[-] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 77 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

“We support liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance,”

This isn’t even that bold of a statement, in the grand scheme of things. It complies with international law and principles of “right to resist”.

Citing revolutionary thinkers, like Vladimir Lenin and Frantz Fanon, it explained how solidarity was essential with members of the so-called Axis of Resistance — which includes Iran, Hezbollah, the Houthis and Hamas — because they oppose imperialism.

Fuckin’ based.

Since then, the group has praised a Tel Aviv attack by Palestinian militants that killed seven people at a light rail station on Oct. 1, including a mother who died while shielding her 9-month-old baby.

Note how we are supposed to clutch our pearls over a group “praising” one dead mom but cheering on a genocide that’s killing thousands of moms is justified as “Israel has a right to defend itself”.

If Trump has taught the world anything, it’s that you should never back down, least of all when you’re actually right. Backing down only makes you look weak and thus a bigger target. When you don’t give a shit and don’t back down then the libs quickly realize they don’t actually have any power over you.

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 47 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Citing revolutionary thinkers, like Vladimir Lenin and Frantz Fanon, it explained how solidarity was essential with members of the so-called Axis of Resistance — which includes Iran, Hezbollah, the Houthis and Hamas — because they oppose imperialism.

This might be the best paragraph that's been published by the NYT ever.

[-] MalarchoBidenism@hexbear.net 40 points 1 month ago

They did the meme erm-this-you

[-] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago
[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

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[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

including a mother who died while shielding her 9-month-old baby.

Ok? I don’t care that the Nazis have families.

[-] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 67 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Brown University students: “pweese just think about divesting? We’ve asked nicely. No? Okay I guess…”cheems

Columbia University students: “I commend Hamas” swole-doge

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 54 points 1 month ago

They're gonna beat you no matter how "civil" you are

Might as well go as far as you can and dig in

[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 48 points 1 month ago

If you're going to be crucified, you might as well be right.

[-] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 47 points 1 month ago

The campus protests last spring were relatively mild. And in response every campus in the US is on an unofficial protest lockdown. GOP reps in congress are openly talking about banning any sort of pro-Palestine protest. That’s how they respond to mild, nonviolent protests. Might as well go all out.

[-] THEPH0NECOMPANY@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Our campus has basically stated that any protests would be packed up by the cops and we had like 2 protests that were incredibly mild. Shits ridiculous, they even increased police presence on school and got armed guards walking around too. Very not so subtle threat to just shoot protestors. Public school btw

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 51 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This had me laughing so hard:

“I mean, literally, there were images of paragliders,” he said, and added, “There were multiple chants of glory to the resistance.”

the-boys-are-back-in-town

When I saw the video of the UT Austin protest chant last year

APD, IDF, KKK, they're all the same!

bloomer

And now this palestine-heart palestine-strong

[-] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 46 points 1 month ago

Some students who have sympathy for pro-Palestinian student actions last semester disagree with the hard-line turn in the movement. In interviews at Columbia and Barnard last week, several students said that between student activists’ harsher stances, and the threats of punishment from administrators for participating in protests, their desire to protest has lessened.
“I think this whole situation and the way that it’s been handled on my campus has absolutely no eye for nuance,” said Bellajeet Sahota, a Barnard senior, who added she was “a little meek when it comes to campus protests.”
I also think my fellow students, as much as I love them, also have no eye for nuance,” she said.

che-laugh how-compelling

[-] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 48 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Citing revolutionary thinkers, like Vladimir Lenin and Frantz Fanon, it explained how solidarity was essential with members of the so-called Axis of Resistance — which includes Iran, Hezbollah, the Houthis and Hamas — because they oppose imperialism.
(...)
On Tuesday, the group said it rescinded an apology it made last spring about the behavior of Khymani James, a student who had said in a disciplinary hearing that “Zionists don’t deserve to live,” and, “Be grateful that I’m not just going out and murdering Zionists.”
“We let you down,” the group wrote in a statement, referring to Mr. James. No longer, the group vowed, would it “pander to liberal media to make the movement for liberation palatable.”

thank fuck. The dishonest pearl clutching by liberal media and their parrots is a weapon and that is necessary to understand. This same media running interference for the Democrat-led bipartisan genocide machine financed by the very arms-dealer death merchants making bank off of the genocide does not have a position worth taking seriously to heart or catering to. Liberal media will always slander you and you can't spend your entire life playing defense because then you are feckless which is the point of them doing that.

It's the same reason no socialist should be spending their time throwing communists under the bus by shitting on the USSR and China, Stalin and Mao, or Castro or the Kims or anyone in order to 'prove to the liberals' "I'm not like those guys I'm one of the good ones!" the establishment and their running dogs don't care


you are the same to all of them and you become moreso the more you actually challenge capital and imperialism. And by spending your time and energy scrambling to reinforce their anti-communist narratives, and contorting yourself to fit in the always-shrinking boxes provided for you by the systems you purport to want to abolish rather than steadfastly pushing forward with studied principle and determination, you defang yourself, and defang and facilitate the destruction of who are your essential comrades in this struggle whether you like it or not, by playing false-respectability politics with our shared enemies. If you have principled studied politics and/or any desire to struggle for what is right you can not, and will not, decide your politics based on what your enemies will say about you. It makes no sense. Your politics must be decided on what you have studied and seen proved in practice. And the lashings out of the system we seek to overthrow just shows us they fear us.

“Nuance” is such a liberal word

[-] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

That disappears the second you ask if the Palestinians have the right to defend themselves.

[-] blame@hexbear.net 43 points 1 month ago

amazing that reporters continue to credulously use that 40,000 number. The counter stopped working so I guess that must mean people stopped dying. i know they always add "at least" but that number is off by an order of magnitude.

[-] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

and even with just that criminally "conservative" number, even 40,000 dead Palestinians, vast majority being civilians, compared to the 1200. israelis stated right next to it when talking about the '~unprecedented, unprovoked attack and atrocity on decency and innocence~', of oct7 they expect people to draw any other conclusion than the protestors. gimme a fuckin break.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 41 points 1 month ago
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[-] InternetLefty@hexbear.net 33 points 1 month ago

Fucking awesome

[-] miz@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago
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[-] CredibleBattery@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago

death to the american project, death to israel

[-] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
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