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Tesla's reveal of a robotaxi designed as a low-slung, two-seater, sporty coupe - quite the opposite of a typical taxi with room for several passengers and luggage - flummoxed investors and analysts.

But in true Musk style, he skipped over expectations of how a two-seater robotaxi would serve the needs of families headed to a restaurant or to the airport, or if he expected these to appeal only to a niche clientele.

Investors jeered the design and the lack of financial detail, with Tesla stocks tumbling 9% on Wall Street on Friday.

"When you think of a cab, you think of something that's going to carry more than two people," said Jonathan Elfalan, vehicle testing director for the automotive website Edmunds.com. "Making this a two-seat-only car is very perplexing."

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[-] frezik@midwest.social 20 points 2 days ago

Interesting how this dumb thing has overshadowed SpaceX performing a chopstick landing for Starship. That's a major achievement that suggests SpaceX will meet its goals for Starship. If Elon had a lick of sense, he'd want that to be the top headline on all the feeds.

Instead, it's about this stupid taxi. If anyone thought Elon was still good at self promotion, this should kill it.

Oh, and he spent his after launch speech hawking a cryptocurrency scheme. So that's great. Anybody still want to go to Mars with this guy?

[-] LordOfTheChia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I have a sneaking suspicion that the Robotaxi isn't ready and instead we just got a look at the Tesla Model 2.

It would make more sense as others mentioned for a robotaxi to have more room for seating and cargo. Even face to face seating.

Full height cargo space like a SUV or crossover (station wagon) body would maximize cargo space for quick cargo loading and unloading.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Well they had to save room for all the safety features that are required for them to be remotely driven from North Korea.

[-] blady_blah@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago

The real problem that he failed to show any progress on self-driving. Self-driving has been 2 years away for the past 6 years and that's the only real thing that will pull Tesla out of a downward spiral. Tesla stock is stupidly overpriced and competitors are catching up.

With nothing but empty promises, people are starting to realize that the emperor has no clothes. And really, who wants to see Musk naked? ...that's a bag nobody wants to be left holding.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

It's been 1 year away every year, not 2

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[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This unveiling is stupid for, like... uncountable reasons. But are people really regularly riding in cabs that fit more than two people comfortably? Unless I specifically request a bigger vehicle from a cab service, a car with a backseat is usually what I get.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I usually get the option of up to 4 people unless requested. You start with the two ends of the backseat, then person 3 gets passenger seat, and person 4 makes you really hope there’s someone short and skinny in your group

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I guess I'm thinking about an actual cab, like the type you flag down on the street, which is what these are also supposed to do (although since it didn't stop for the investors trying to flag it down, yet another tesla failure).

If you try to ride in the front passenger seat of a yellow cab in NYC, you'll be lucky if you're only yelled at for trying that.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I typically use a taxi/Uber on my way to an airport. I at least need room for my suitcase and laptop bag

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I think that is why the design choice, I think it has a larger trunk. Idk though

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 62 points 4 days ago

It looks like they were working on the new roadster and Elmo told them they were switching to a driverless cab.

If it were a sports car it would probably sell really well because it’s got the doors that open like this

[-] ThomasLadder_69@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

Im gonna start calling him Elmo from now on haha.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago

He's been at the point for some time where he believes being "contrarian" is the same as being "smart".

[-] niemcycle@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Absolutely. The way he talks too, he uses this flowery, overly technical language you usually only use when talking to engineers or technical people. It's purely an attempt to confuse and sound smart, as any engineer worth their salt will tailor their language to their audience.

[-] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yes, so much so that engineers receive training on how and when to use jargon vs lay people terms. Like multiple classes go over this

[-] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago

On a related note...

Full Self Driving coming next year? Or the year after that? Or after that?

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 38 points 3 days ago

Musk and “FSD is coming next year” is like Trump and “I only want to be dictator for a day”.

[-] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

More like his healthcare plan. Or his infrastructure plan

[-] Kadaj21@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Details will be shared in two weeks!

[-] pezhore@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

There are concepts of FSD.

[-] mondoman712@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago

In two years presumably. It's been two years away since 2015.

[-] breakingcups@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Yes. But also: No. Mostly no.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

What was his first prediction on that like 2015?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

We'll have FSD as soon as we get those flying cars with AGI I've been told are a few years away my entire life.

Space colonies too.

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 days ago

Investors jeered the design and the lack of financial detail, with Tesla stocks tumbling 9% on Wall Street on Friday.

I didn't realize this stupid vehicle was a two-seater. What a dumbass move.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

When investors attempted to hail the cab it ignored them according to another post I saw yesterday.

[-] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

What a fucking moron. Dude is so goddamn stupid that every decision he makes is the wrong one. And yet people keep defending him...

[-] Zier@fedia.io 32 points 3 days ago

I'll take the bus, thanks. At least I will arrive alive at my destination.

[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

But think of the opportunity cost here, you'd be wasting a chance to run over a child or a poor person!

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[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 3 days ago

I can't wait for one of these to pull up with a puddle of vomit on the seat

[-] Steve@communick.news 21 points 3 days ago

I'm sure he's imagining commuter clients using it to go to work every day on a subscription.

[-] DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago
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[-] actually@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

In all fairness the critics simply have to get high on drugs to see the car as it was meant to be viewed.

It seems selfish they are not

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

How often do you think Elon drives while blasted out of his mind on ketamine? Because I bet it's a nonzero number.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It may only have 2 seats, but didn't they notice the tires are painted gold. That's an awesome design decision right there! /s
The 2 seats are probably meant to keep the death toll low. 😋

But if they thought the robotaxi was weird, that was nothing compared to the robovan. Almost no clearance and almost no windows, and then Musk exclaimed: Yes! We are gonna build it like that! It's siiick.

neither robo- taxi or van are likely to be moneymakers. They'll be a sinkhole of development cost, that will never come to market.

But more are probably finally catching on, with an event causing the stock to drop 9%.
It's kind of hilarious that Enron Musks attempt to pump the stock failed so bad. 😋

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[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago

Stop supporting Elon

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 12 points 3 days ago

Seems like the minivan is really the right thing. Can share with multiple folks or have a significant amount of luggage for the airport or such. Easier to serve the handicapped.

[-] rsuri@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

To me it makes sense because without the driver, there's less need to maximize passengers per vehicle. Plus the added weight for the extra, often unused seats is a bigger problem for EVs because of the need to minimize weight (which then requires more heavy batteries). Generally the vast majority of taxi trips are one or two people, so you don't wanna make them any bigger than necessary. And if there's 4 people, they can just take 2.

The problem isn't the number of seats, it's that there's no plan for them to become actually self-driving.

[-] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

EVs really don't have to minimize weight nearly as much as ICE cars. Regen is really powerful with a large battery and aerodynamics and rolling resistance is king at speed. And larger and heavier batteries are cheaper too.

[-] oakey66@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

That’s because Musk is a dunce.

[-] Jagothaciv@kbin.earth 9 points 3 days ago

Didn’t his mom say Leon was developmentally challenged in a twit post?

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