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[-] Hupf@feddit.org 23 points 2 days ago

Gilgamesh, a king. Gilgamesh, a king, at Uruk. He tormented his subjects. He made them angry. They cried out aloud, send us a companion for our king. Spare us from his madness. Enkidu, a wild man from the forest, entered the city. They fought in the temple. They fought in the street. Gilgamesh defeated Enkidu. They became great friends. Gilgamesh and Enkidu at Uruk.

The new friends went out into the desert together, where the great bull of heaven was killing men by the hundreds. Enkidu caught the bull by the tail. Gilgamesh struck it with his sword.

They were victorious. But Enkidu fell to the ground, struck down by the gods. And Gilgamesh wept bitter tears, saying, 'he who was my companion through adventure and hardship, is gone forever.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 94 points 3 days ago

The TV show has ruined any chance of that series ever being completed. The man is old and now has fuck you HBO money. He should just tell people he's not going to finish it and hand it off to someone else.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 72 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's wandered into Half-Life 3 territory. Being both iconic for how long the fans have waited for it, and a product that's meant to be the climax of a high-profile series, there's no way it can live up to the hype.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

The little-known KotOR III drama pains me more.

[-] nuggsy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I was so disappointed they pivoted and turned it into an MMORPG. I just wanted a single player focused game where I could be immersed in the story.

I don't get immersed in an MMO type game. It just becomes a task to complete all missions and end up clicking through dialogue. Maybe that's just me though.

I also just read all the development issues about the SWKOTOR remake.

[-] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

And not the cartoonish stupidity said MMO is.

I also just read all the development issues about the SWKOTOR remake.

Frankly the reason I'd want KotOR III is because of the plot and the music and the rest of what makes a game from non-technical point of view. What engine they'll use, what combat system, all that is unimportant.

And they could call it something else. I just want Onderon, wandering Jedi, Sith magic, tombs and artifacts, and that feeling that there's only your soul and the universe.

[-] DogWater@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

District 9 sequel as well

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 days ago

We all know it's going to be finished by Brandon Sanderson, the Computer Associates of moribund, out-of-control fantasy series.

[-] Custard@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

I know it's probably a joke, but he has been asked if he would do this given the chance and said no

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

Perhap$ he can be per$uaded

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[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 15 points 3 days ago

He's going to write the final novel in secret in between his regular books and suprise drop it on us with a guilty face

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Nah. What ruined it was the fan response to the ending.

That for aure was the ending he had intended for the books and provided to D&D with his outline of major plots points... There's no way they made that up on their own. The dramatically negative response to the ending means he would have to redevelop the entire ending again.

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago

Most people didn't really hate the HBO ending that much after reflecting on it. What we hated was how God damn rushed and sloppily it was done. We were also furious how poorly the Battle for Winterfell was done. If they'd done the proper arc for Daenerys descending into madness, more of Bran being positioned for taking the throne, etc etc, it wouldn't have fallen nearly as flat. Instead, the show skipped all of that development and so all the character choices felt completely random and stupid.

Anyway, I agree with you that that's why he's lost motivation for it. Iirc, he initially supported D&D and said that was the intended ending. It wasn't until later that he backtracked and said that it wasn't. But, yeah, we're never going to get the last books.

[-] gargamel@leminal.space 21 points 3 days ago

The poor ending was entirely due to the hubris of Dumb and Dumber who were greedily looking ahead to their next projects. HBO was willing to give them as many seasons as they wanted after season 6 and they said, "Nah, we can do it in two seasons. And instead of ten episodes each they'll have 7 and 6 episodes because "Fuck You". They could have handed it off to someone passionate if they were bored, but again, hubris.

[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Eh, there were a lot of decisions that essentially made it impossible to write a good story for the ending. Just off the top of my head:

  • Arya using her Faceless Men training once. She could have probably just paid to kill Walder Frey...
  • Zero payoff to the big Targaryan reveal - other than it pissing off Dany
  • Why Arya decided to go travelling.
  • Bran barely used his abilities. Man could've warged into several beasts and fought during the main battle, and outside of being a moody bitch he doesn't really do anything other than act as bait.
  • Who was the legendary lord of light? Was it Jon? It kinda seemed like it, but it makes a lot more sense for Arya to be the one.
  • Thematically, it would have made a lot more sense for Jaime to reject Cersei, and for this to be the catalyst for her to go crazy - with Dany going crazy from achieving slow victory that chipped away at her claim.
  • Varys was too clever for his story to end like it did. IMO he should have been able to escape his capture, and fled away from Westeros.

Unpopular opinion: The show runners did the best job they could, because with the limited time they had there wasn't really an option for a better ending. They really needed at least another two seasons, but the reason GRRM hasn't written another book is because he knows he's written himself into a corner - and rather than try to fix it through TV and give himself an "out" he criticised the ending he probably had a hand in creating, and won't ever finish the story.

[-] bizarroland@fedia.io 60 points 3 days ago

Is there anywhere we can find a translation yet or is it too early?

[-] Uruanna@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Looks like it's the 2015 discovery:

https://etc.worldhistory.org/exhibitions/giglamesh-enkidu-humbaba-cedar-forest-newest-discovered-tablet-v-epic/

It was a handful of extra lines that described the Cedar Forest being much more lively and noisy, acting like a whole royal court, than previous versions. It also showed that the whole tablet was much more recent than previously thought.

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 55 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

+1

I really hate how screenshots have replaced actual articles. I want to know more.

[-] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 days ago

Kids these days can't even read Standard Babylonian 😔

[-] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago

because modern online articles are filled with 800+ words of literally no meaning other than getting the viewer to see the 2,000 ads plastered on the website

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago

And seeing that immediately invalidates whatever claim the headline makes, so it's important to know.

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[-] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

can't answer definitely, but if you look up Irving Finkle (not Finkelstein)on YouTube, he is a really interesting fellow who I believe can read it all fluently.

I want to like my job as much as Dr. Finkel does his. Also I think it's just Irving Finkel.

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[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 39 points 2 days ago

Dang kids and their tablets ...

[-] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

It's no secret that the "i" in "Gilgamesh" stands for "ipad".

[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 4 points 2 days ago

And the G stands for Galaxy Tab.

[-] letsgo@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago
[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Open source king

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 3 days ago
[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago
[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Given that the Epic of Gilgamesh was something copy pasted to train scholars and stonemasons for centuries if not millennium, how can we be sure this is canon?

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 38 points 3 days ago

Because it was around long before cannons.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago

Behold my comment, unedited, with the correct number of n's and shirk away in your ill natured unsophistry.

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Part of it was also the lack of canon. The ancient world didn't have "one true version" of anything, it had the version at hand. Which was usually the version that the current (local) king wanted.

[-] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 19 points 3 days ago

I almost forgot about ASOIAF completely. I still remember when A Feast for Crows came out after a couple of years of waiting, and how eager I was to read it. And A Dance with Dragons was generally an unenjoyable mess for me, feels like a forced afterthought.

It's been almost 20 years, time to give up GRRM. I'm sure you have a couple more unrealized ideas that took a backseat while you finished it.

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Oh he already gave up about 12 years ago. He just refuses to admit it.

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[-] match@pawb.social 16 points 3 days ago

that shit looks like it's written in size 4 font. were Babylonians ant-sized?

[-] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 3 days ago

Clay tends to be heavy as shit, so writing tiny means that you don't nead a mule team to bring the reciept for the bad copper.

[-] gargamel@leminal.space 12 points 3 days ago

A Dance With Dragons took him 6 years to write. It's been 13 years since then. Even if Winds of Winter came out tomorrow, it would take him 26 years to write A Dream of Spring given that each book takes twice the time the previous one did. Sadly it's vaporware at this point.

[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 days ago

Finally! I'm still waiting for Chess 2.0 though

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago
[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

A video game version of Chess 2 is available on Ouya as of 2014.

Gonna take the world by storm!

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[-] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 days ago

New Chess! Now with boxing gloves!

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[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

GTA 6 will finally be released by archeologist thousands of years from now.

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