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It was absolutely bonkers watching the raddle king make false equivalencies between the terms “blacklist” and “brown-nose”.

Love seeing a tagline that spawned from a thread I was part of lol.

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[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago
[-] nothx@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The term is used to describe a list of things that are disallowed. So the connotation is a bit racist. “Allow list” serves the same purpose without and is being widely adopted in the software industry.

Meanwhile brown-nosing is like kowtowing or kissing up too. The connotation of that is that your nose is up their ass and you got shit on it.

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

The connotation of that is that your nose is up their ass and you got shit on it.

Ohhh I thought it was a reference to that Gabriel Dropout episode where Raphiel got Satania to dress up as a reindeer

[-] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

“Allow list” serves the same purpose without and is being widely adopted in the software industry.

Outside of programming, "blocklist" would probably make more sense for most normal uses of the word (blocking people out of credit/rent/employment/etc).

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

allow is the more descriptive replacement for whitelist, dunno why op switched from blacklist -> blocklist, they serve similar purposes but the inversion of the default is pretty important

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I see. even if the term itself wasn't created to be racist (at least the direct evidence for use against black and enslaved people isn't certain) the use of "black" in the context especially vs "white" reinforces existing racial hierarchies

edit: moreover it was used against labor and is basically a bourgeois term

[-] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6148600/

it has its origin in anti-labor actions taken during the first stages of chattel slavery. terms like black sheep and black market are similarly racially charged. black eye is just abt the color of the injury tho. and the “brown” in brown nose is abt getting shit on ur nose from ass kissing im p sure.

[-] enkifish@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

black sheep

Isn't this also about the literal color of wool? Black wool is caused be recessive genes and shepherds didn't really like them because it can't be dyed and isn't very marketable. At least that's been my understanding of the term.

[-] ZoomeristLeninist@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

im still suspicious of that one. it’s a continuation of the black=bad paradigm. there is a traditional view of black sheep being undesirable bc u can’t dye black wool (at least before bleaching agents were discovered). but the modern connotation of “black sheep” comes from early chattel slavery

[-] Ithorian@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

Even with modern techniques black wool is hard to use. And if it gets into a normal batch while processing it can essentially contaminate the whole thing.

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

just wear the black wool, damn. goths stay winning

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago

Wait Zig caused the first struggle session? Lol

[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

No, but he did impersonate several of us on Raddle pretty early on.

[-] nothx@hexbear.net 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Nooo, sorry, my wording may have been confusing. It’s the first I can remember. Right around when I made my hexbear account.

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