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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) by RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee to c/mildlyinfuriating@lemmy.world

Edit/Update: It turns out that my last name has a capitol letter in the middle and they put a space in it. Thank god. I can actually vote this year.

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[-] RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee 20 points 19 hours ago

Edit/Update: It turns out that my last name has a capitol letter in the middle and they put a space in it. Thank god. I can actually vote this year.

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 8 points 8 hours ago

17.5: People's names aren't written in camelCase

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago
[-] RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee 7 points 9 hours ago

Something like that, except it'd be DeLarge and it's in the system with a space and apparently case-insensitive

[-] Hubi@feddit.org 149 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As a European, the whole registering to vote thing is honestly one of the wildest parts of the US elections to me. It's so unnecessary complicated and prone to errors/manipulation. I just have to show up with my ID, doesn't matter if it's for the EU parliament or the local city senate.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

the sound bites you hear about voting are intentionally misleading: you have to show up with an id to vote here too and that's not where to controversy lies; but the soundbites are setup to make it sound like it is to engender the reaction you've shared.

the controversy is registering to vote; not voting; and the conservative states intentionally make registering as heavily bureaucratic as possible in the hopes of minimizing the number of people who can successfully finish to process of registration.

they've also dedicated hundreds of millions on dollars to understand and enact policies to keep the poor and minority groups from voting.

usually democrats sit back and let republicans openly do it, but sometimes democrats do it themselves; the democratic governor of california just made automatic voter registration illegal; just as the conservative states do.

[-] leadore@lemmy.world -3 points 5 hours ago

As a European, the whole registering to vote thing is honestly one of the wildest parts of the US elections to me. It’s so unnecessary complicated and prone to errors/manipulation. I just have to show up with my ID, doesn’t matter if it’s for the EU parliament or the local city senate.

I see comments like this a lot. Most important and apparently most difficult for Europeans (and others but it's almost always Europeans) to understand is that the US is a very large country, made up of 50 semi-independent states, each with its own government and laws-- about many things, not just elections. So that's why things are more complex here--we're not a small monolithic nation with one single, centralized government and set of laws that apply to everyone no matter where in the country they live.

Each US State runs its own elections; a person obviously can't be allowed to vote in more than one state. Since people can move from one state to another at any time, and even have residences in more than one state at the same time (such as college students and well-off people), it's necessary to register with the state you will be voting in, so that you are officially able to vote in that state and no other.

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

You do realize some countries in Europe have federal governments (Germany for example), right? And then these completely independent countries are part of the EU which have EU elections. So you have federation within federation. Also, the EU has higher population than the USA. We don't even all speak the same language. We are allowed to move between EU countries whenever we like and have residence where we please.

I think its not Europeans that don't understand.

[-] actually@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

So… I’m in Texas , been here a long time.

most ballot counts in the primaries and general are counted by secret software and hardware run by ultra conservative families the last 20 plus years. Recounts are not allowed and exit polls not used anymore because of unpredictability.

Nobody cares, no political party wants to change : not a topic in forums anywhere, even in conspiracy minded chat rooms, and it’s been this way forever ( since before 2000).

There is a ton of crazy that is ignored .

I’ve seen how the system works, I’ve been at the county chair level. Nobody will criticize it . There is a quiet culture of people knowing it’s invalid but decide to leave it be.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 6 points 19 hours ago

It's so unnecessary complicated and prone to errors/manipulation

That's why it exists - to make it more inconvenient for people (especially in certain demographics) to vote.

[-] faercol@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 20 hours ago

Depends on the country though. In France you must be registered to vote (you're assigned a specific voting office). It's a single registration foe everything, not for each vote

Although the process is online, and takes like 5mins.

You also get a voting card, but it's technically optional, it just speeds up the process in the voting office.

[-] abigscaryhobo@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Just want to add, in the US you'd don't have to register to vote each election/vote, just when you change address.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 88 points 1 day ago

It's by design. We could make it easier, but certain groups benefit from making it difficult.

[-] match@pawb.social 37 points 1 day ago

In conclusion, please send the UN to fix us

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

The OSCE reports are usually just shy of scathing. The US reaction to those missions ranges, as far as I'm aware, from being completely oblivious to it or its results to Sheriffs trying to arrest observers.

[-] Jikiya@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Well the reason is that there are state laws against outside observers, and no treaty giving any foreign government the ability to monitor. So they're just enforcing the laws, as they're supposed to.

Mind you I'm not saying the UN or any other nation is going to interfere, but seems really important to follow laws around voting to make sure the attitude of enforcement isn't lax.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I'm not too familiar with the specific legal status of the OSCE in American law, I bet there's a treaty or the other, but generally speaking a) you're a member and b) you regularly send out your own people as OSCE mission members into other countries to observe elections and c) Every member state gets observed (alongside non-member countries inviting the OSCE because it's a stamp of approval and can help stabilise democracies, establish trust in the procedures). Cursory observations are done for basically all elections that aren't strictly regional, more in-depth ones every couple of elections. It's democracies holding each other accountable.

If Bumfuck, TX, wants to make a statement against Canadians observing their elections that's their god-damned right but it's also the duty of Washington to shut them the fuck up. Not too filled-in on the details either but when you start arresting people with diplomatic passports accredited by the federal level I think you should maybe take a step back and make a phone call before deploying handcuffs.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

On the one hand, the UN making a resolution that they won't trust the results of the US elections would play right into the hands of what some MAGAs are saying.

But MAGAs then agreeing to any UN resolution, especially one that requires third party oversight...

I'd say the odds are even on this.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

It's wild.

There are some local and state governments trying to pass automatic voter registration, but it's an uphill battle, not unlike most things that would generally benefit the public good in this country.

[-] b34k@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Even in California, we got automatic voter registration passed the legislature, only for the governor to veto it.

Just wild that something so fundamental to a functioning democracy is so divisive.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago

functioning democracy

That's exactly why it's divisive. They don't want a functioning democracy.

[-] myrrh@ttrpg.network 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As a European, the whole registering to vote thing is honestly one of the wildest parts of the US elections to me. It’s so unnecessary complicated and prone to errors/manipulation.

...what the electorate consider a bug the politicians consider a feature...

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago

There's never been a United States ID card, for... reasons. As a Californian, I could get a California ID card, at the same place I got my California Driver's License, if I didn't intend to drive. The forms have the option of adding Voter Registration using the same information (birth certificate, proof of residence) at the same time. But some states make it all much more complicated.

[-] elephantium@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

United States ID card

Passport seems like it sorta fits, but it's hardly universal.

[-] deo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 14 hours ago

Doesn't have your address on it though.

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[-] wjrii@lemmy.world 126 points 1 day ago

Oof. I checked mine three times this cycle to be sure. Never know when some awful mistake, like voting in a Democratic primary, will get your TX Voter info deleted.

You know, though, since we're mostly left-leaning around these parts, just tell me the secret code and I'll meet you at a basement in the People's Republic of Austin and we'll discuss getting three non-citizens to vote however you'd like, and then we can dine on the flesh of Christians to celebrate!

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

How are you guys looking on adrenochrome down that way? Supply shortages have hit us hard on the east coast. I'd kill for some fresh, virginal blood right about now.

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[-] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

by the way if you vote by mailing it in, in Florida your vote could be denied without you even knowing.

They verify the signatures and a lot of recent young adults never really had a proper signature, it also happens that a lot of youth vote blue.

[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

Invalidating a vote based on signature analysis sounds like a recipe for a MASSIVE probe into election integrity.

[-] ech@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago

Won't matter if it pushes it past Jan 6th and the vote isn't certified.

[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Also wont matter with the supreme court sitting at 2/3rds fascist

[-] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

Made me go check mine and I don't live in texas.

[-] aramis87@fedia.io 40 points 1 day ago

Twitter and some other reich-wing places were doing fucky stuff like promoting register-to-vote sites that didn't necessarily actually register you to vote. This is particularly true in Texas, because all the sites were online but Texas required you to register either in person or by snail mail. But the sites would display success messages and shit anyway.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Isn't that a serious federal crime? How did they not get caught doing that?

[-] aramis87@fedia.io 23 points 1 day ago

News article: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/02/elon-musk-pac-voter-data-trump-harris.html

There was also trump handing out hundred dollar bills and musk offering money to people to register to vote, both of which also seem to be against the law. Fuck if I know why the government doesn't seem to take this shit seriously.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

AFAIK the government cannot take it seriously because the board of the FEC, like the Senate, is 50% Nazis: https://www.fec.gov/about/leadership-and-structure/

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

They live in Siberia?

To be fair IDK but it seems like the american law enforcement or the whole system isn't working as expected.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 27 points 1 day ago
[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago

Voter suppression go brrrrrr

[-] GlendatheGayWitch@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

That doesn't look like the site specifically for TX. Not sure if there might be something that could cause another site to report an error.

Double check at

www.votetexas.gov

You'll need to enter your TDL (Texas Driver's License Number) and date of birth after clicking the "Am I Registered?" button

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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Not a Texan, but here in Missouri, you can request your absentee ballot as early as 9/24 this year.

I requested mine, waited two weeks, and it never arrived. So last week I requested another, and I'm waiting for it. I do think there's some fuckery afoot with the mail, so I'm probably going to be stuck voting absentee in-person at my local election board.

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[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Important: If you're on the suspese list rather than being fully removed (unsure if that's the case here), you might still be able to vote but will need to show proof of residence. Contact your registrar to check that and ask them about it

If voters find out they're still on the suspended list after having shown up at their polling places on Election Day, they can still vote after they complete a “statement of residence” form.

Voters with suspended status who may have moved to other counties will be required to vote in the counties where they previously resided or may be asked to submit provisional ballots.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/texas-voter-purge-warning-ballots-abbott-rcna168811


As a note to all: Check your voter registration status today as deadlines are very fast approaching (or even already past in some states)

https://vote.gov/register

[-] AquaTofana@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Yes, my husband was on the suspended list in our county for years, despite us owning the same home since 2013. He'd even fill out the little address verification card and send it back, stating that the location on record was still valid. Didnt matter, because every single election he would still pop up "suspended" at the polls. He had his TDL, and he'd have to fill out an extra form, but he'd be allowed to vote.

This year, I decided enough was enough and we put our house up for sale, because once I leave Texas this time, I'm not coming back.

I contacted our county registrars office to get our VUIDs so I could update our new address at our rental, and we found out he just...didnt have a VUID? They had no record of him voting in Texas at all...yet he's been able to vote with a "suspended" status with his TDL for years now...living at an address he hasnt deviated from since he originally registered in Texas.

Honestly, I think he was just finally removed since he'd been in "suspended" so long 🤷‍♀️. Im unsure if it was a legit mistake, or if some genuine fuckery was going on.

But we're all gucci now. Both confirmed registration again back in September. Awaiting 21 Oct with bated breath!

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