It is being ran as a council republic, with social democrats in charge (ew I know)
But everyone lives well, not exploiting any countries for it and am fairly peaceful. Only one war with norway really.
Only one war with norway really
very traditional, you should also go to war with Denmark
Denmark has stayed fucked up this playthrough.
I don't want to inherit their fucked-up-ness.
They have had like 6 failed fascist revolutions and then they keep electing landlords to run the place.
It's very strange
How were you able to get enough resources to industrialize without colonizing? I can't imagine Sweden has that many natural resources (and presumably zero oil and rubber in particular).
I have zero colonies. I import oil from germany as it has a lot of it. And rubber I am pretty much always on short supply of but there is a communist country in Africa I get some from.
I don't really know why I am doing so well this time around. I am usually terrible at the game. lol
It's possible they've finally gotten the AI to extract resources. That was always the old issue; you couldn't import oil or rubber because nobody had any.
They allow you to invest in foreign countries now, and so you can develop the resources yourself if you want. You do need diplomatic treaties for it IIRC
Ah right, I don't have the DLC so I could still only do it through protectorates, which wasn't great. I assume those foreign countries also have to have the goods to support railways to export, which is probably a problem.
What game is this?
Victoria 3
Ah neat, I had heard of it but never actually seen what it looked like. I assume its a civ game like crusader kings or hearts of iron yeah? Is it particularly good in comparison to these two?
It's similar enough that it uses the same engine and is in the same genre (real time, grand strategy etc), but its focus is on political economy to the point where its a Marxism simulator, rather than a strategic military game (HoI) or an inbreeding game (Crusader Kings).
Uh... If you've never played a paradox grand strat before, prepare for a learning curve (Stellaris is probably the most accessible one).
or an inbreeding game (Crusader Kings).
Excuse me I managed to become my own grandfather without even any incest there.
Also played the Middle-Earth mod as Stalin, son of Balin and it was based.
Stalin, son of Balin
These are strange times indeed
Expropriate Moria from the petit-burgeois landlord Durins Bane and it's army of Orcish Kkkops
Stellaris is definitely the most accessible one, because of how it starts you from a small baseline position rather than dropping you into a whole ongoing historical context.
I can tell because it's the only one I can get into.
cries in starting as the USSR in 1936 first time
Gained a whole new respect for Stalin with that one huh
And then lost it after learning the meta smh why didn't Stalin just make space marine divisions, CAS and airdrop paratroopers on victory points in the UK? He could also have used a civil war to purge out all the scary people if he wanted (just put your soldiers on a boat as the war fires off!)
I am a military genius. I give my troops new tanks and they don't need training to use them that's how it works also my political ideology is completely incomprehensible
I haven't played grand strategy games outside of the physical boardgame known as risk.
I'd like to try though, I think it would activate some neurons
Good luck, don't be afraid to pause and look up guides etc.
It's similar to other PDX grand strategies but i would say the harder to grasp then others. Still 3 is massive improvement in accesibility over 2 so if you like other PDX games, give it a go.
I wonder what that jump was hehe
That would probably be the destruction of the petite bourgeois as a class.
They went from like 20% clout to 8% and I was able to pass a lot of laws like workers protections and things of that nature
Nuke norway
so if my experience is mostly just fucking around in CK2 and a lot of Stellaris how easy would this game be for me to pick up and play? Thinking about getting it and would like to know if I drop it like a stone like HOI4 after only a few hours.
Based on my launch experience (some of the patches and dlc change up the game a ton):
It’s not that hard to pick up once you figure out the UI. But also most of the game is fucking around with different inputs until you get the results you want e.g. building up enough infrastructure so you can set up paper mills so you can set up universities so you can expand the intelligentsia so you can start passing liberal laws, etc. In the late game everything becomes kinda automated and you end up just kinda sitting back and enjoying your little communist utopia.
The biggest points of friction were all the “gamey” elements they put on top of the simulation, which end up with weird results like France balkanizing into a million different states after the Paris Commune or World War 1 starting because Brazil declares war on Argentina. But I dunno how fun a pure simulation would be so idk
I bounced off of other paradox games pretty quickly but this one grabbed me immediately. Like others have said, it’s a materialism simulator where your internal politics actually matter and are directly affected by how you play. It’s also a lot of microing supply and demand of various resources with local and global economies interacting. It’s less plotting to assassinate a rival leader and more plotting to tank their economy by becoming the biggest exporter of steel. There are a lot of systems going on but for me it felt really intuitive just from a basic understanding of material drivers of politics and economics
I'd highly recommend pirating it to demo it.
that was the plan yeah, i just wanted to ask before i waste my hd space and ruin my ratio 
Do you have the new Spheres of Influence dlc? Thinking of reinstalling to try it out
Ye. I bought the season pass when the game came out.
I don't know how well that investment strategy will work out.
You should probably just pirate the dlc. It's stupidly overpriced but it is a good dlc
Hexbear Vic 3 game when?
It'd be pretty cool to plan a day and host one.
It would probably need to be split up into a few days tho. Those games last a long time
I was just thinking that.
I tried so hard to get into Vicy 3. I love the idea of it but it just never really clicked for me 
It's not too hard, you look at what is in demand in the market and begin building buildings that supply those things, then you die of old age waiting for them to complete.
I got the dying of old age from waiting part down! I might give it another go after my X4 kick fizzles out.
I tried a few times and I think I got to trigger happy on shifting the government to socialism and each time started a civil war. The one was called for imo since I was attempting to dismantle the monarchy or whatever in like year 2 of that session.
i did the same on my first test games. then i realized you really have to do the Marxism steps properly.
monarchy - capitalism - liberalism - socialism.
This makes a lot of sense rofl. I might throw it back in my backlog. I'm too poor to buy things right now so I've been playing my actual library for once.
i think someone linked the fitgirl pack on here. it has all the dlcs. and there's a link to a russian site with the latest updates. just have to do google translate to make navigation easier, download and patch.
but no rush it isn't going anywhere! i get library paralysis basically constantly my ADHD has me basically obsessively playing 1 out of 100 games for months and months
I already have the game and I think all the DLC, so that's not an issue. Also I'm not sure if the repacks are easy to get running on Linux. I suspect I can sideload them as a "non-Steam game" probably but never really tried it.
Also I'm not sure if the repacks are easy to get running on Linux
I have run it through wine using lutris, been a few weeks, but seemingly no problems as I remember
You've got any tips? I always end up cheating and it kinda ruins the fun in the long run
I considered cheating many times this play through. It's a game that is a lot of rng. And the countries make downright a-historical decisions.
But if you stick with it... it stays the same. There needs to be a lot more added that was in viccy 2.
Very excited for the next update tho. Hope it fixes some problems I have with the game
you're making want to boot up another Sweden run. i keep smashing my head into the table with United States ones. i like starting minimal but still with a good foundation but with as little military conflict as possible. i was just afraid i would be fucked on resources like coal without doing imperialism which i know is often necessary in game but is still repulsive to me
I don't feel like I had to engage in much imperialism other than my annexation of norway.
In all honesty sweden is fairly self sustaining. Plentiful natural resources as well as a fairly literate population starting out which really hastens the construction of industry and for labor movements to form
Actually have been interested to play a reformist council republic like this. Maybe as the People’s Republic of Korea.
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