TBH I like an elfbar sometimes. But I know how unsustainable they are, buying one feels worse than buying cocaine or meat or insert whatever fun and ethically challenging item.

I've never managed to replicate the disposable taste with a reusable vape, and I've had experience with reusables. Anyone know if it's doable?

Good start. Now expand to all current and future battery devices. Honestly, disposable battery devices are a bad, out of date idea. Doing nothing but long term harm to the environment.

But nothing will change until firms are forced to do so. It's just time until the next huge disposable trend if it is not addressed now.

Aside from the myraid of good arguments about why this is a good thing to be happening.

Having, in a past attempt to quit smoking, used a few. The ones that they tried to make look like a cigarette.

Yeah they are really awful, utterly horrid. I'd rather suck turd out a camels arse. Turned out I'd also rather just stop entirely (sorry, I only lasted about 18 months. but I will mange it)

Shouldve been banned three years ago, but those investors wouldn’t make buck. Now that they did we can care for the environment.

Good. We had perfectly reasonable rebuildables for so long.

And then Juul made disposables popular and in came waves of China disposables.

I saw a disposable vape with a screen and Bluetooth/mic built in. You could play games on it and take calls. That is a ridiculous amount of e-waste.

Good. The batteries alone being disposable is insane. https://stoke.nub.news/news/local-news/staffordshire-university-graduate-uses-disposable-vape-batteries-to-power-electric-scooter-197624

Obviously prohibition doesn't work, but banning disposables specifically should be mandated everywhere. It is insane that a product that contains rechargeable lithium batteries is not rechargeable, or if it is it must be thrown away after less than a month.

now where will bigclive get free discarded lithium cells?

we need a clean, biodegradable version of vapes. maybe use some form of paper? and instead of juice just use the actual leaves from the tobacco plant

it's insane they ever took hold. in the 20 fucking 20s. people look at my refillable mod like I'm holding a walkman

Wow, I normally don't think of England when it comes to countries who have their shit together!

The disposable black market & associated disproportionate rise in youth vaping in Australia results from the illegality of all vapes, not just disposables. It's hard to imagine it becoming a burgeoning black market predicated solely on that vapers find the highly available, better value, relatively environmentally friendly option untenable. Overall a sensible move I think coming from a pro-vape perspective