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[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

My brain just doesn't want to accept the idea of a stealth tank. It kind of feels like building a stealth monster truck, or creating sugar free Pez. It's like being loud is part of what it's supposed to do.

[-] Davidchan@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Not to fet credible, but from a treeline 2km away a properly disguised tank can be pretty stealthy. Same concept of stealth aircraft, yeah if its close you're gonna see it, but if passive and active sensors can pick it up till visual range, well mighty fine way to sneak a platoon of tanks into an otherwise 'observed' area while looking like little more than a couple of civilian vehicles or migrating animals to a radar, or dull spot to thermals.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

What RTS is this from?

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 13 points 23 hours ago

powered by hydrogen fuel cells

I don't think the logistics for hydrogen fuel cells will help in actual combat situations, though it's expected to enter operation in 2040 anyway.

autonomous driving and slave drones

Hopefully one that actually works. As for the drones, I guess for reconnaissance?

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

You can load a truck with fuel cells to extend range beyond what the current infrastructure can handle.

It's more complicated with batteries that need to be charged. Sure, there's a grid in many places, but if combat capability depends on the grid, it'll get targetted. And even before that, capacity is a concern and if the grid can handle a tank battalion wanting to plug in every tank so they can be ready for whatever comes next ASAP.

Fuel cells mean they can set up behind the front lines and use power more predictably and refuel tanks quicker than gas.

[-] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I never really understood what fuel cells have to do with hydrogen, and why it's a more appealing form factor than removing a vehicle's gas tank and instead just putting in a manifold with room for a number of some standard of gas can with valves fitted. It's not an inherently "hydrogen" thing.

Besides, it's fully possible to set up a bunch of gas cans from a truck in the same way you could set up a bunch of hydrogen "fuel cells".

[-] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

That a few thousand dollar drone will obliterate.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

More like few hundred. Slap an old rpg on an fpv and there you go.

[-] BluesF@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

The next-generation tank will have stronger preemptive strike capabilities using an artificial intelligence-based fire control system

Well that's disturbing. I wonder what level of buzz word AI this is? Safe to assume computer vision is involved, target/threat identification... Does "preemptive strike" imply the fire control system is firing by itself? I know it's not the case but it's hilarious to imagine it's ChatGPT doing it.

[-] RobertoOberto@sh.itjust.works 10 points 19 hours ago

My heart smiles at the thought of the first crew to actually command this thing in a war zone pulling security on some unknown pile of rubble and being awoken at 0347 by their tank unexpectedly dumping its entire payload on an "enemy" that it hallucinated.

Granted, dumb privates do this too, but it's funnier to think about the tank doing it all by itself.

This could even be exploited by putting decoys in the landscape the AI recognizes as enemies.

[-] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

Very easily

I am waiting for the non-destructible forever Toyota tank. Just make sure insurgents dont get their hands on one.

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago
[-] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

The big players in military tech aren't just the likes of Raytheon and such, it's also companies like Hyundai, Samsung, Texas Instruments (a little obvious for those who know, but many people are surprised about that calculator company being at the heart of so much military technology). Power plants and transmissions for tanks and such are made by General Electric, Allison, Cummings, etc. General Motors has a military division for small tactical vehicles (think Humvee)

Hell, IBM supplied computers to the Nazi regime that were used to tabulate prisoners at the concentration camps and those machines were used to produce the serial numbers tattooed on them. Most semiconductor research breakthroughs came as a result of military funding.

[-] jia_tan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 141 points 2 days ago

Famously transporting large volumes of hydrogen has never gone wrong and hydrogen charging stations have proven very reliable and also hydrogen as an alternative to electric is definitely not a ploy by big oil to keep drilling for fossil fuels!

Good job hyundai 👍 Very credible 👍🏿

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

H2 tanks are safer than diesel. It would make a superior tank to diesel in most ways. Quiet, electronics power, portable solar charging in forward position, H2 production in solar rear stations. In war, having all of your large oil refineries and port handling blown up the first day is common, and decentralized and portable H2 production is an important asset.

ROK while leading on H2, is way behind on both solar transition projects/roadpath and have abandoned solar technology themselves. Government does serve its industrial champions but also serves US master. US wants to subjugate colonies to its NG. Industrial champion needs clean energy independence.

[-] FleetingTit@feddit.org 3 points 23 hours ago

Do you even realize how much energy is needed to produce significant amounts of hydrogen and then compressing it to a useful pressure? FOB solar isn't going to cut it. Decentralized H2 production isn't a viable thing without fossil fuels or a working power grid.

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago

For sure, field charging of tanks should be through DC. But H2 is the solution for energy abundance that is 100% renewables based. To have enough energy every day from renewables needs surpluses on most days, and H2 production is the best use of those surpluses because it is transportable/exportable energy that happens to be cheaper than electric transmission.

[-] AMillionNames@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Military vehicles are purpose built. They didn't use hydrogen because it was green, they used it to fulfill their requirements for a silent stealth battle tank. But I'm sure your technical knowledge far outdoes that of the people involved in designing this tank 👍 Very credible 👍🏿

Fuel cell technology will also dramatically reduce the noise the tank generates when on the move.

Literally from the article you failed to open.

[-] jia_tan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I thought this was a shidposting community

I do actually agree with everything you and other people in this thread have said, I just don’t care :3

And yes my technical knowledge definitely outweighs the knowledge of hundreds of Hyundai engineers, thank you for noticing <3

I am Jia Tan and I approve this message :3

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 39 points 1 day ago

My dude, the military transports more volatile materials than hydrogen every day. Just because something doesn't make sense for civilian use doesn't mean it's never going to be viable for military use.

If you're worried about the dangers of transporting something like hydrogen, you're going to lose it when you find out what bombs are made out of.

Electric motors are just more efficient in just about every way at scale, the current diesel motors being used in tanks aren't really able to be improved upon. They're at their technological peak, so the only way to move forward with mbt is by figuring out how to make electric motors work.

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No no, it’s credible because it decreases the ground weight, and if you fill it up enough, it can just float over AT mines 🤓

From Hyundai to Hindenburg very fast 👏 👏 👏

[-] Comment105@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

Hyundenbyurg 👌

[-] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Science man smart!

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[-] Birch@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago

Can't wait to see what the N-Line will look like

[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

Holy fuck that's a sexy tank

[-] Glemek@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

It looks like a miniature

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[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Capable of the highest next-generation turret toss!

[-] Hubi@feddit.org 43 points 2 days ago

Does noise really matter that much on a modern battlefield with one surveillance drone every 200 meters?

[-] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 69 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

the other feature is low to no heat, so these things are like tank drop bears

[-] Hubi@feddit.org 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

drop bears

Instance checks out

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