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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

Things in poor neighborhoods are done differently than in middle- and upper- class neighborhoods. People that grow up in poor neighborhoods develop behaviors, customs, and beliefs that are different from other neighborhoods because they are part of surviving in the struggle. When they move on up, some of those behaviors, customs, and beliefs are no longer necessary and can even be harmful (e.g. strong reactions to perceived attacks). Others may actually provide an advantage (e.g. living through power outages). Regardless, these changes can cause a sense of estrangement from their childhood and original culture, leading to some resistance. Given all that:

What did you change and what did you keep?

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I stopped expecting to need to fight every time I have to pass someone on the street, or every time someone approaches me.

[-] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 7 points 5 hours ago

I stopped pulling over to pull useful items out of other people's trash.

I still look, but I haven't yanked a chair or TV in years.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

When I was a kid, my city had an annual trash week where people would put their large items on the curb for pickup. We used to drive around looking for TVs and anything else that could be valuable, and then pawn them or sell them to other people.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

hard for me, neighbor likes to throw away computer cases when he upgrades, got a nice mechanical steel series keyboard too. my son and I cleaned it up, filled it with parts and now he has a decent computer. saved me $300 retail and he learned how to test things to make sure they worked, like io cables and whatnot. win win.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Damn, I can't imagine throwing that stuff away instead of donating it. If it's just a common item I'll drop it off at the thrift store, and if it's something really good I'll put it on Craigslist for free. If it's really good then I'll sell it.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

i can only imagine he thought it was broken, he left

this case - Corsair 4000D - https://amzn.to/40uje6R

this keyboard - Steelseries Apex Pro - https://amzn.to/48zfXVP

and a week later, this case - Thermaltake Core V2 - https://amzn.to/48BL96M

the thermaltake case i had just bought one a month prior to setup as a backup Truenas server, they Corsair case and keyboard went to my kid's rig after we cleaned it. haven't found any major issues, every once in awhile the lights ont he keyboard go wonky, so we just unplug it, wait 10 seconds, and plug it back in. all keys work perfectly find.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago

Ha! Thay first case is the exact case I have for my main gaming desktop. I almost bought the second case last month when building a HTPC and the only reason I didn't is because it was a couple inches too big to fit into my home entertainment center. That's a damned nice keyboard too!

[-] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 2 points 2 hours ago

Aww, damn... I'm busted!

I forgot I have fished a few computers & cable boxes out of the trash... Got a 1TB HD out of a trashed cable box, planning on getting home assistant & jellyfin running soon, so a little extra storage always helps!

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 3 points 4 hours ago

yoooo, my first adult bed, furniture set, and laptop were from the trash. rich kids in college towns throw out the best stuff. it was a Compaq, and the only problem was overheating because it needed that heat sink lube.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, I found a lot of the furniture for my first apartment in an alley.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

heatsink lube

thermal paste? lol

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 3 points 3 hours ago

lol yeah, the grey sticky stuff 😋

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Haha. That's hilarious.

[-] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 13 hours ago

I'm really good at surviving with a very small amount of money. For a while I also would steal food from wherever I could get it, I thankfully don't have to do that anymore but the skills are there.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 8 points 12 hours ago

I used to live off of the leftover food of people who didn't finish their plate at a restaurant.

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 1 points 4 hours ago

me being autistic at the same time not knowing that was looked down upon: you gonna finish your fries??

[-] Num10ck@lemmy.world 77 points 1 day ago

how to avoid appearing like you just escaped the lower classes:

  • stop keeping everything, just in case you might need it
  • stop buying random crap without seeing how it can justify your space/money/time.
  • stop eating garbage. eat consciously, expect you will need to feel great instead of stopping hunger.
  • stop keeping in touch with toxic people just because you might need them someday.
  • stop seeking attention with the way you dress and talk, etc. don't appear needy. aim for tasteful.
  • preventative maintenance. fix things that are wonky before they fail at a bad time.
  • appear competent and secure, give eye contact, listen.
[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 6 points 12 hours ago
  • stop keeping in touch with toxic people just because you might need them someday.

This one is big.

Had a talk with a guy recently. He's always putting other people ahead of him to give his life meaning. And yet it also stresses him out, doesn't get anything in return, and is only doing it because of a hypothetical "they'd do the same". But they don't?

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

Why'd you have to call me out like that with those first three?

(Seriously, not keeping stuff is so difficult. It's a strain on my marriage and I wish I could just flip a switch and not feel that instinct)

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 14 points 1 day ago

Yooooo, I needed to hear a few of those. Thank you very much!

[-] Etienne_Dahu@jlai.lu 7 points 1 day ago

Ditto, this post was quite helpful!

[-] Num10ck@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

glad to hear it.. try them for a month and report back what you experienced

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 5 points 1 day ago

you got it, dude 👶👍

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"the sticks" doesn't mean poor, it just means in the countryside (at least in the UK). On the estate(s) would be correct for us.

I didn't grow up particularly poor, but became poor upon moving out of the family home. This led to making do with very limited ingredients, finding bargains, and that has stuck with me ever since. I've saved a lot of money down the years, can live very frugally for a period of time when I really need to, and as such became a homeowner because I knew how to knuckle down and avoid unnecessary expenditure, perhaps to the detriment of my health at times.

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

In the US, "estates" sounds vaguely wealthy. For example, a fancy garage sale is an Estate Sale (which kinda implies a rich person died and this is their estate being liquidated.)

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

It's not implied, that's what an estate sale is, regardless of how fancy it is.

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

It's short for council estate. We also have the same connotation if you own an estate, a large parcel of land with a big house or whatever.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago

I think your "council estate" is our "section 08," govt provided shitty housing projects?

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 2 points 1 day ago

“the sticks” doesn’t mean poor

Is there an informal term that would describe poor rural neighborhoods similar to ghetto/barrio?

[-] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 13 hours ago

Trailer park :/

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

My friend grew up in the type of neighborhood you're describing and he calls them "backwoods communities"

[-] BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place 2 points 1 day ago

thx! updated the title 🌳🌳🌳

[-] arality@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago

I used to keep EVERYTHING under lock and key, or under my direct supervision. I have been robbed multiple times. Turns out, not everyone is a shitty person. TBH I kinda still do it. Not to the extremes I used to though.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

There are a lot of shitty people in all socio-economic classes. They're just not desperate once you get out of poverty, so they're not going to steal everything that isn't nailed down.

[-] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Casual racism that only intensified the inequity. Realize it's the billionaire class that's benefiting from the in fighting.

[-] iii@mander.xyz 12 points 1 day ago
[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

A big thing is thinking about finances constantly and asking those kinds of questions in social settings. It's more of a common thing to do when you're in a poorer environment.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 day ago

Everyone talks about finances... but upper class has different "struggles"

[-] Sundial@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

Poor people more often have the kind of reaction of "Oh, that must have cost a lot." whereas richer people will simply say "Yeah that's good for you, it's important to get the good stuff".

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Or, it's knowing how fancy something is and then having to one up people. Money is involved but perhaps not explicitly mentioned, depends on the purpose though.

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