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[-] brainw0rms@hexbear.net 1 points 12 minutes ago

old people scapegoating the younger generation by projecting their fears and dreams onto them, more news at 11

[-] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 14 points 1 hour ago

gen z had like 14% turnout, this election doesn't really tell us anything about their political views.

[-] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 16 points 1 hour ago

It just tells us that the only gen z motivated to vote were the fascist ones 🤷 Wonder if the genocide has anything to do with that .

[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 8 points 1 hour ago

I didnt think even about the turnout. We are basically back to young people just not voting at all i guess.

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 6 points 1 hour ago

Damn I wonder why young people didn’t vote

-me fuckin 1776

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 9 points 1 hour ago

I love when there's a panic about some demographic doing something bad, and then you find out that the demographic does the bad thing marginally less than everyone else

[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 6 points 1 hour ago

From TAing during grad school, gen Z is fantastic especially the younger ones (that are about 20-21 rn). Totally anecdotal but they were really resilient and supportive of their peers/community. Those that participated and supported the pro-palestine encampments prove this IMO. Im not particularly worried about gen Z as a whole, just half of their white men who vote based on 2 minute JRE clips

[-] Biggay@hexbear.net 5 points 54 minutes ago

As someone in a similar environment, you got to take these people you meet with a grain of salt. Theyre already self selected through college, colleges are something of a bubble.

[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 2 points 47 minutes ago

True but i still sense some good vibes at least, frankly though i also know a lot of dipshit white men in that age group so maybe im just coping

[-] immuredanchorite@hexbear.net 4 points 1 hour ago

bespoke: gen-z isn’t a generation

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 18 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

As a millennial, I've met a lot of men my age that are far-right. It's not just a gen z thing. Generational warfare is stupid.

Ben Shapiro is a millennial, Mr. Beast is a Zoomer. There are shitheads in every generation.

[-] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 4 points 1 hour ago

What do ben shapiro, mr beast, and joe rogan have in common?

spoilerWhite men

[-] urmums401k@hexbear.net 12 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Really ramping up in the early 2010s there was a deliberate program of Nazi propaganda pushed through the algorithmic curation systems of every single corpo platform our generation gave their social lives over to in the early 00s, the kids just followed us. If you told your friends to get on Facebook, and aren't a Nazi, youre just a Judas goat.

Luckily, I was and am too insufferable to have friends, and am thus blameless.

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 10 points 1 hour ago

I'll never forget the time in about 2014 or 2015 when I searched for "proto indo european" on youtube because I like learning about language shifts. I watched one video about phonology, then YouTube recommended one about early migration patterns, then they recommended a video called "who were the proto indo europeans" and I was like oh neat, I never really thought about their culture or technology or whatever, let's watch that.

I'm kinda spacing out doing something else, and I hear the video say "so basically, the proto indo europeans were ethnically German" I was like ohhhhhh what the fuck?? That sounds not correct at all... wait didn't... didn't the Germans have some weird concept of "Aryans" to the east or something? What the fuck am I listening to?

I look down and the channel name is "SurviveTheJive"...... uhhh.... the WHAT? Survive the WHAT?

It was a Nazi. It took literally two YouTube recommendations to bring me to a channel run by a swastika-wearing Nazi.

[-] sOlitude24k@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 29 minutes ago

I'll never forgive the Dungeons and Diversity YouTube channel for the shitty bait and switch channel name when trying to introduce new people to the hobby. They can fuck right off forever.

[-] urmums401k@hexbear.net 6 points 1 hour ago

And every big platform is like this. On purpose. We handed our social lives and so much of our culture over to them, and they used that monopoly to push Nazism. Every corpo in silicon valley may as well have a sonnenrad on its face.

[-] ItalianMessiah@hexbear.net 20 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I'd say it's a less centrist generation. More radicals on both sides of the equation.

[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 15 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

As I said before. Millennials are overreacting and quite frankly getting way too cocky about their generation.

Like year the political polarization between "generations" is going to shrink, but the analysis that Gen Z Men are overwhelmingly Hitler Youth going around is absurd. Like yeah there are young conservatives, but many of their left wingers are more radical than Occupy Wall Street (and even Bernie). Gen Z is going to react differently to material circumstances than did because they have already lived through the destruction of the American Dream or whatever we call it, while Millennials watched it decline.

I do think it should be noted that it does seem like Millennials are more computer literate than Zoomers.

[-] SoloboiNanook@hexbear.net 1 points 43 minutes ago

I'm a millennial who works IT in a building with A LOT of zoomer workers and I can tell you right now they (anecdotally) have zero idea how computers work lol.

Everything has been made so easy that they simply hit button and it works. I was crawling around on DOS as a kid and had to figure it out for even basic literacy. None required nowadays. I've had people unplug scanners from computers and then not understand that the USB connection wasn't for charging a wireless device. That it needs the cord to transmit data lol that's why you can't remove the cord from the scanner.

[-] urmums401k@hexbear.net 19 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

If gen z men do sway 'Hitler youth' its because fucking Steve bannon google and Facebook fucking conspired to flood them with Nazi shit at a vulnerable time in their development, to deliberately create an algorithmic nazification pipeline, and everyone involved needs the kind of bodily experience that involves at least one thing from every aisle of home depot. And quickly, because they're still doing it.

This is not theoretical; researchers have done the 'fresh account' test, its repeatable, and Steve bannon explicitly talks about doing this on purpose with 'gamergate'. They are open about their conspiracy.

[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 8 points 2 hours ago

Yeah this shit has to be combated asap. Honestly should have been eradicated 10 years ago.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 9 points 2 hours ago

You're right.

10 years ago they started discourse about how "punching nazis is bad, killing leftists is good, actually"

This shit should have been stopped a long time ago, but liberals care more about decorum and defending fascists' right to frozen peaches than they do about combating it.

[-] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 13 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

despite being younger gen Z is gonna run out of steam because every subsequent generation for the last 50ish years ages faster than the one that came before it

[-] 2812481591@hexbear.net 31 points 4 hours ago
[-] waluigiblunts@hexbear.net 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Incorrect, houses can move during extreme weather conditions

[-] urmums401k@hexbear.net 3 points 2 hours ago

Yeah. I bet most cars are a higher % of surface area window than most houses. Theory could still hold.

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 1 points 1 hour ago

omg centrism on my hexbear?

[-] BrookeBaybee@hexbear.net 40 points 5 hours ago

They are a largely underdeveloped generation politically that is less averse to traditionally "extremist" positions and rhetoric due to constant online desensitization

[-] urmums401k@hexbear.net 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

As I commented elsewhere in this thread; they also followed us onto the corpo platforms, all of which had algorithmically curated nazification pipelines.

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 6 points 2 hours ago

And anyone who can read the news has a dim awareness that the younger you are, the shittier things are going to be in general for the rest of your life. Material conditions matter

[-] ProletarianDictator@hexbear.net 14 points 4 hours ago

Very concise summary of this phenomenon.

[-] HarryLime@hexbear.net 27 points 5 hours ago
[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 3 points 1 hour ago

That's true and simultaneously not true

Boomers definitely are a real phenomenon, the mass global lead poisoning of hundreds of millions of people is no joke

[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 8 points 3 hours ago

I was born on the cusp of the Millennials and Zoomer Gen and was called both. It's dumb and pointless

[-] ped_xing@hexbear.net 26 points 5 hours ago

I think boomers were real, that was something that happened with a clear cause and a huge bubble worked its way through the age distribution like a big rat through a snake. Every other "generation" is just arbitrary intervals.

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 6 points 2 hours ago

Even boomers is mostly referring to well-off white people (and some people of other backgrounds) who have reaped the rewards of the emergence of the American Empire as the global superpower. It's really a label about wealth, not just being born somewhat soon after WWII.

[-] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago

My parents are technically boomers, even though they were born in 1962 and 1963, a bit far after the war to be part of a post-war baby boom.

[-] ped_xing@hexbear.net 1 points 2 hours ago

That too -- even the upper endpoint of that interval is arbitrary.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 18 points 4 hours ago

Gen Z is truly a land of contrasts

[-] heartheartbreak@hexbear.net 39 points 5 hours ago

We live in a generation obama-socialism angry-place

[-] Poogona@hexbear.net 20 points 5 hours ago

I think I've done too much generational analysis, everywhere I look I see generations. I think it's a millennial thing to do so much generational analysis. Everything feels enveloped in another generation to me. Now I can't tell gen alpha from gen Renaissance, it's all just gen post-agrarian to me now, and I find myself hating those boomer-gatherers for fucking it all up

[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 6 points 3 hours ago

I have a theory Millennials have so much trauma of being accused of destroying everything that they started to do a lot of generational analysis.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 3 points 3 hours ago

They became the boomers they sought to destroy

Those dastardly material conditions and their informing people's worldview

[-] urmums401k@hexbear.net 3 points 2 hours ago

Also, algorithmic nazification pipelines. Deliberate and intentional! Steve bannon needs real exemplary consequences.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 24 points 5 hours ago

This election didn’t really prove they’re either as well. A record number of them went out to vote against trump in 2020 and this year most stayed home due to apathy. It’s not like Trump gained a wide number of new converts with him underperforming.

[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 4 points 3 hours ago

It should be noted that many of the first Gen Z members graduated college during the Biden administration and experienced those first few years without debt.

[-] KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net 8 points 4 hours ago

So what you're saying is that Gen Alpha will be the revolutionary vanguard?

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 20 points 5 hours ago

Do my traditions weigh like a nightmare on your brains?

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