it is somewhere in-between 
Solidarity amongst the working class, no matter their age. Do not let ourselves be divided against each other.
old people scapegoating the younger generation by projecting their fears and dreams onto them, more news at 11
gen z had like 14% turnout, this election doesn't really tell us anything about their political views.
It just tells us that the only gen z motivated to vote were the fascist ones 🤷 Wonder if the genocide has anything to do with that .
Drove past a guy today parked near an intersection sitting in his Honda Civic with 2 Trump flags attached to the bumper and a flashing light on top of his car. Just sitting in his car.
These people are energized.
I didnt think even about the turnout. We are basically back to young people just not voting at all i guess.
Damn I wonder why young people didn’t vote
-me fuckin 1776
I love when there's a panic about some demographic doing something bad, and then you find out that the demographic does the bad thing marginally less than everyone else
From TAing during grad school, gen Z is fantastic especially the younger ones (that are about 20-21 rn). Totally anecdotal but they were really resilient and supportive of their peers/community. Those that participated and supported the pro-palestine encampments prove this IMO. Im not particularly worried about gen Z as a whole, just half of their white men who vote based on 2 minute JRE clips
As someone in a similar environment, you got to take these people you meet with a grain of salt. Theyre already self selected through college, colleges are something of a bubble.
True but i still sense some good vibes at least, frankly though i also know a lot of dipshit white men in that age group so maybe im just coping
bespoke: gen-z isn’t a generation
As a millennial, I've met a lot of men my age that are far-right. It's not just a gen z thing. Generational warfare is stupid.
Ben Shapiro is a millennial, Mr. Beast is a Zoomer. There are shitheads in every generation.
What do ben shapiro, mr beast, and joe rogan have in common?
spoiler
White men
Really ramping up in the early 2010s there was a deliberate program of Nazi propaganda pushed through the algorithmic curation systems of every single corpo platform our generation gave their social lives over to in the early 00s, the kids just followed us. If you told your friends to get on Facebook, and aren't a Nazi, youre just a Judas goat.
Luckily, I was and am too insufferable to have friends, and am thus blameless.
I'll never forget the time in about 2014 or 2015 when I searched for "proto indo european" on youtube because I like learning about language shifts. I watched one video about phonology, then YouTube recommended one about early migration patterns, then they recommended a video called "who were the proto indo europeans" and I was like oh neat, I never really thought about their culture or technology or whatever, let's watch that.
I'm kinda spacing out doing something else, and I hear the video say "so basically, the proto indo europeans were ethnically German" I was like ohhhhhh what the fuck?? That sounds not correct at all... wait didn't... didn't the Germans have some weird concept of "Aryans" to the east or something? What the fuck am I listening to?
I look down and the channel name is "SurviveTheJive"...... uhhh.... the WHAT? Survive the WHAT?
It was a Nazi. It took literally two YouTube recommendations to bring me to a channel run by a swastika-wearing Nazi.
And every big platform is like this. On purpose. We handed our social lives and so much of our culture over to them, and they used that monopoly to push Nazism. Every corpo in silicon valley may as well have a sonnenrad on its face.
I'll never forgive the Dungeons and Diversity YouTube channel for the shitty bait and switch channel name when trying to introduce new people to the hobby. They can fuck right off forever.
I'd say it's a less centrist generation. More radicals on both sides of the equation.
As I said before. Millennials are overreacting and quite frankly getting way too cocky about their generation.
Like year the political polarization between "generations" is going to shrink, but the analysis that Gen Z Men are overwhelmingly Hitler Youth going around is absurd. Like yeah there are young conservatives, but many of their left wingers are more radical than Occupy Wall Street (and even Bernie). Gen Z is going to react differently to material circumstances than did because they have already lived through the destruction of the American Dream or whatever we call it, while Millennials watched it decline.
I do think it should be noted that it does seem like Millennials are more computer literate than Zoomers.
many of their left wingers are more radical than Occupy Wall Street (and even Bernie)
thats an understatement. i have told friends about the maoist reforms and been met with "when can we do that here lol". i can big up Stalin and say that billionaires/CEOs have it coming and get literally 0 pushback. talking to older people about the uhygur bullshit gets me accused of genocide denial or fake news and is always an uphill battle, but people my age take "well obviously the news is saying awful shit about china, its owned by ultrarich americans who have a vested interest in lying to you lmao" as a fairly obvious answer. i've only ever encountered pushback from one zoomer and it was requests for sources from a ex-right-voting centrist at work.
i know my sample is biased by not being in the us and being openly a communist, but i don't think the problem is that the zoomer left (or, imo, the vast majority of zoomers who aren't straight up fash) aren't amenable to socialism, its that we are MASSIVELY disillusioned. no one under 30 in the west has actually been helped by the political establishment. nothing has ever gotten better, and the current projections are that nothing ever will. we're not against the far left or whatever; we're just absolute and utter doomers
I'm a millennial who works IT in a building with A LOT of zoomer workers and I can tell you right now they (anecdotally) have zero idea how computers work lol.
Everything has been made so easy that they simply hit button and it works. I was crawling around on DOS as a kid and had to figure it out for even basic literacy. None required nowadays. I've had people unplug scanners from computers and then not understand that the USB connection wasn't for charging a wireless device. That it needs the cord to transmit data lol that's why you can't remove the cord from the scanner.
Most computer literate generation is xennials and computer literacy declines until you get to computer illiterate boomers and zoomers.
If gen z men do sway 'Hitler youth' its because fucking Steve bannon google and Facebook fucking conspired to flood them with Nazi shit at a vulnerable time in their development, to deliberately create an algorithmic nazification pipeline, and everyone involved needs the kind of bodily experience that involves at least one thing from every aisle of home depot. And quickly, because they're still doing it.
This is not theoretical; researchers have done the 'fresh account' test, its repeatable, and Steve bannon explicitly talks about doing this on purpose with 'gamergate'. They are open about their conspiracy.
Yeah this shit has to be combated asap. Honestly should have been eradicated 10 years ago.
You're right.
10 years ago they started discourse about how "punching nazis is bad, killing leftists is good, actually"
This shit should have been stopped a long time ago, but liberals care more about decorum and defending fascists' right to frozen peaches than they do about combating it.
despite being younger gen Z is gonna run out of steam because every subsequent generation for the last 50ish years ages faster than the one that came before it
omg centrism on my hexbear?
Incorrect, houses can move during extreme weather conditions
Yeah. I bet most cars are a higher % of surface area window than most houses. Theory could still hold.
They are a largely underdeveloped generation politically that is less averse to traditionally "extremist" positions and rhetoric due to constant online desensitization
And anyone who can read the news has a dim awareness that the younger you are, the shittier things are going to be in general for the rest of your life. Material conditions matter
As I commented elsewhere in this thread; they also followed us onto the corpo platforms, all of which had algorithmically curated nazification pipelines.
Very concise summary of this phenomenon.
Generations are fake
That's true and simultaneously not true
Boomers definitely are a real phenomenon, the mass global lead poisoning of hundreds of millions of people is no joke
I think boomers were real, that was something that happened with a clear cause and a huge bubble worked its way through the age distribution like a big rat through a snake. Every other "generation" is just arbitrary intervals.
Even boomers is mostly referring to well-off white people (and some people of other backgrounds) who have reaped the rewards of the emergence of the American Empire as the global superpower. It's really a label about wealth, not just being born somewhat soon after WWII.
The bubble of population growth ie the "boom" in "boomer" is part of what contributed to their wealth. The surplus labor of boomers in their youth did not need to support as significant a population of older generations who were less numerous to start off with and additionally lost a great many as casualties of war. As boomers age the reverse becomes true and the new generations must support an enormous elderly population of boomers. This intersects with the many other factors that we are all familiar with on this forum.
My parents are technically boomers, even though they were born in 1962 and 1963, a bit far after the war to be part of a post-war baby boom.
I was born on the cusp of the Millennials and Zoomer Gen and was called both. It's dumb and pointless
We live in a generation 
Gen Z is truly a land of contrasts
This election didn’t really prove they’re either as well. A record number of them went out to vote against trump in 2020 and this year most stayed home due to apathy. It’s not like Trump gained a wide number of new converts with him underperforming.
I think I've done too much generational analysis, everywhere I look I see generations. I think it's a millennial thing to do so much generational analysis. Everything feels enveloped in another generation to me. Now I can't tell gen alpha from gen Renaissance, it's all just gen post-agrarian to me now, and I find myself hating those boomer-gatherers for fucking it all up
I have a theory Millennials have so much trauma of being accused of destroying everything that they started to do a lot of generational analysis.
Those dastardly material conditions and their informing people's worldview
Also, algorithmic nazification pipelines. Deliberate and intentional! Steve bannon needs real exemplary consequences.
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