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[-] GreyShuck@feddit.uk 55 points 4 hours ago

Yes, fun idea. No problem with that but... that 'flag' is a sail. They're different things.

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

Using a sail to fly your colours is a red flag.

[-] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 15 points 4 hours ago

Sus. Having any issue with a red flag meme. /s

[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 10 points 3 hours ago

Or they are just non-native english speakers

[-] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, but those people don't get defensive when you comment on it, while those who are raising the red flag immediately do. It's pretty easy to tell them apart from that point forward.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

What a sweetheart you are. Can't even let a webcomic get away with not being inclusive.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Remember, pirates did fly red flags as well as black ones. The red ones meant you were extra fucked.

[-] 4oreman@lemy.lol 4 points 2 hours ago

he'd probably call women maidens

[-] Revonult@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago

I been wondering people's opinion of "Female" in some instances. Like is "First Female president/athlete/mayor/lawyer" appropriate? "First woman____" doesn't sound right and you wouldn't say "first man athlete to run 2 hour marathon" you would use male.

Most things can be rephrased maybe, but obviously using Females outside these instances is very right wing cringe.

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 35 points 4 hours ago

"Female" is fine to use as an adjective.

It's also fine to use as a noun when describing livestock, which is why it's a red flag to describe women that way.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

What is a good word to use for people who are female of any age including young children that are not old enough to be called women in addition to women?

'Women and girls' is pretty clunky when talking about something that is gender specific, but applies to all ages.

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Just ask yourself if you'd use "males" in that context.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

I absolutely would use males in that context. "Toxic masculinity has a detrimental affect on males of all ages" sounds perfectly fine to me because I don't know of a different label for the group and males doesn't have the same dehumanizing usage as females.

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 8 points 3 hours ago

boys and men / girls and women sounds right to me

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

'Gendered violence against teenage women and girls' is really clunky. Especially if it needs repeating across paragraphs.

If there isn't something, that's fine.

[-] savvywolf@pawb.social 9 points 3 hours ago

"Gendered violence against females" on the other hand sounds a bit too clinical though... Like you're removing their personhood

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

If 'females' wasn't used by online sexists to treat women as objects would it sound that way?

[-] savvywolf@pawb.social 6 points 3 hours ago

Maybe! I don't know if "gendered violence against men" also has the same connotations.

Maybe this is indeed is a case of those people poisoning the term.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

"Don't forget about gendered violence against boys!" would be a likely response to a statement about men.

It is absolutely a case of a term being poisoned, which does mean it needs to be treated more carefully but sucks when there isn't an alternative.

[-] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

Women is probably fine to use when the ages can be gleaned from context. You can also make the noun non gendered and use female as a adjective like “female students” or “female patients”

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

I'm mainly asking when ages span from birth to old age and the goup would basically be "female persons" or "male persons" which is clunky.

Sometimes it can be rephrased, but it often requires multiple words to mean the same thing. Plus "women of all ages" will be read as not including children.

I'm mostly pissed that sexists ruined the only single word term we have for half of the population.

[-] ted@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

Woman as an adjective is picking up in my circles and podcasts I listen to. Woman scientist, woman entrepreneur. It may have sounded weird initially, but I've gotten over it and I suspect it will develop over time to be completely normal.

I wouldn't really compare it to the male/man counterpart, because men aren't demeaned by being called "male" regularly.

[-] Revonult@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I agree it works in most cases it works fine but like "First woman astronaut" feels weird.

I mostly didn't want to be accidentally participating in something shitty.

Edit: or like "fastest woman athlete"

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 2 hours ago

Someone should really tell everyone from the south. I had no idea until it was pointed out to me by someone younger. Changed my behavior of course, but was simply ignorant before.

[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 1 points 2 hours ago

With an attitude like that, something tells me that pirate won't be getting any booty

[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Ferengi off the port bow.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago
[-] obscur_e@lemm.ee 5 points 4 hours ago

Lmao good one

this post was submitted on 08 Nov 2024
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