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Why on earth wouldn't they put "chloronitramide anion" in the title? I hate science journalism.

[-] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 39 points 5 days ago

LOL LMAO CAPITALISM NO CLEAN WATER LOL LMAO

[-] xj9@hexbear.net 37 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Since the 1990s, many public systems have switched to inorganic chloramine, a chlorine derivative, to purify water supplies. Systems serving about 113 million people in the U.S. use this process. This alternative purifying chemical produces hundreds of byproducts, including an “unidentified product” that befuddled scientists.

In findings published in the journal Science, researchers have identified that compound, chloronitramide anion. They found it has possible risks linked to carcinogens and could be harmful to reproductive and developmental health.

I can't find a public access version of that article tho.. I wonder if any common filtering methods work on this substance?

(this issue of Science just came out, so maybe the access issue will resolve itself in the next few days)

[-] penitentkulak@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago

Chloramines suck to get rid of, brewers sometimes use metabisulfite tablets . Pool people superchlorinate the water with free chlorine/bleach, which breaks down the chloramine then quickly gasses off. Carbon filters don't work that well for chloramines, you have to really slow down flow for it to be effective. Not sure if any of these techniques would have any effect on the anions in this paper.

[-] Lemister@hexbear.net 11 points 5 days ago

You could use adsorption with activated carbon perhaps? it is used to filter out chloramine. Or use UV-Light.

[-] uSSRI@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago

Can't remember my chemistry, would the anion fuck with the carbon and not bind to it?

[-] Lemister@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago

Well yeah kinda. You get Carbondioxide and Chlorine and a very nucleophile Nitramide Anion which would react with water. But you would get it dissolved. The Chlorine could get then be removed by the activated carbon. Removing a Chloronitramide anion is something that isnt really feasible/affordable by a DIY homebrew water filtration system. Especially since newly indentified.

[-] uSSRI@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago

Thanks for the info!

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 5 days ago

Don't see open access for the paper either unfortunately, I guess we'll have to wait a bit.

[-] D61@hexbear.net 36 points 5 days ago

Done worry RFK's brainworms 's are on the case!

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 26 points 5 days ago

He's going to put beef tallow in the water isn't he sadness

[-] D61@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago

RFK Jr: Hey! We haven't tried putting roadkill in the water supply yet, right? Lets try that.

[-] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago

These are the kinds of innovations Americans need and deserve. I also have a bunch of road kill just sitting in my freezer.

[-] darkmode@hexbear.net 33 points 5 days ago

ahh I guess that's why all that weird shit about US drinking water being totally safe was on my twitter FYP (I know I shouldnt be looking at it)

[-] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 28 points 5 days ago

weird shit about US drinking water being totally safe

real Obama-tier gaslighting going on

[-] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago

the devil's milkshake

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 28 points 5 days ago

Lmao for years I would hear from Americans how LATIN CULTURE is uncivilized because of our unclean drinking water. Get fucked, gringos.

[-] buh@hexbear.net 30 points 5 days ago

the secret ingredient is FREEDOM and if you loony lefties don't like it, LEAVE frothingfash

Wait, wasn't that lead in everything?

[-] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago

Starting a non-profit where people from Africa and South America donate to build clean water sources in the US.

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago

entirely unsurprising

[-] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago

Fuck I'm gonna have to use filtered water to wash my dishes now

Also hot take, but maybe having undrinkable tap water is a good thing actually? The line keeps going up, so I font really see anything bad here

[-] darkmode@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago

Potable water is actually bad for your gut biome: here’s why! 🧵

[-] Sulvor@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago

I’m doing contract work in a small town from Dec-Mar and they just released a statement about their drinking water…guess I’ll buy a water cooler to drink from but idk what to do about cooking water

… Department of Health and Environment to all customers who have been determined that a portion of or the entire water pipe that connects your home, building or other structure to the water main is made from lead, galvanized material or unknown material.

[-] blight@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago
[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Researchers recommend people use a Brita filter or similar product for tap water. These filters use carbon to rid tap water of such compounds.

I have a countertop water filter that uses a carbon filter for this kind of thing. Gets rid of the chlorine-y smell and I guess stuff like this as well.

The one I have is kinda lame though. Locks up easily if you accidentally completely empty it of water, one of the chambers has stagnant water, etc. And of course you have to buy filters, and replace them every 6 months.

Not sure if there are many good countertop water filters. An under-sink one works better of course.

okay penitentkulak in this thread says this may not be very effective.

[-] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The City of Toronto uses chloramines too, this is Canadian erasure

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