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Most people just want a good life. If we stopped seeing each other as the enemies the world could be better.

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[-] demesisx@infosec.pub 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It’s by design. ~~Divide and conquer~~ Combine and conquer has been the playbook since they (anti-labor think tanks like the Progressive Policy Institute and others that seek to keep labor infighting) started studying group psychology.

FPTP contributes more than its share to the tribalism and poor infighting we see in the US and the UK.

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[-] thezeesystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 months ago

Idk one side wants to enslave, murder, and rape. The other does not.

Let's just be friends as they take away my rights and everyone I love rights away, we shouldn't be enemies as they hunt down and murder someone for "existing"

Maybe we shouldn't be friends with the enemy and fight against the regime?

This is one of the was Nazis came into power, by manipulating the mass thinking "oh we should all be friends" and now look what happened.

-a trans non-binary disabled person

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 10 points 3 months ago

There aren't only two sides to every issue. Thinking like that is limiting.

[-] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 months ago

Regardless of how many sides there are, it is an undeniable fact that plenty of people (in the USA in particular, apparently, a majority of the voters) choose to be in (a) side(s) that want(s) to enslave, murder, and rape.

And many others choose to be in (a) side(s) that enable(s) the previous one(s).

No civilised society should accept any of those sides, or those that choose them.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 4 points 3 months ago

It seems that way because of the two party system brought upon by how votes are counted and winners chosen (winner takes all). If you watch jubilee, you'll see just how fragmented both parties are (good example of pro and anti trump republicans). Forcing people to choose between one or the other has led to the USA becoming very black and white.

[-] yetiftw@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

solidarity means solidarity. other working class people are not your enemy (re: 1984). the all or nothing mindset accomplishes nothing besides closing your mind off to the plights and perspectives of others.

-also trans and disabled

[-] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 1 points 3 months ago

Idk one side wants to enslave, murder, and rape. The other does not.

Seeing people hold this kind of views is fucking depressing.

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[-] Jonnyprophet@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Amen.

What the people who want to control us don't want us to realize is that you have a lot more in common with the Chinese/Russian/Ukrainian/Mexican/Indian working class... Factory worker/programmer/hard-working house wife... Then you do with your own political leaders and billionaires. People with servants who don't ever worry about bills. (Biden, Trump, Harris, Vance, Elon, Gates, Bezos, etc)... Don't look at the foreigners as different and the enemy... Look at the Rich and the Politicians (who want us to blame the foreigners)

[-] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 months ago

No war but class war.

[-] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Like South Park on religion: "you're all so focused on the stupid little differences that you're not seeing the big, stupid similarities."

[-] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't see MAGA people as the enemy because they want to pay less in taxes. I see them as the enemy because they don't think my kids should exist in society and are actively passing legislation to make it so.

Delete this shit take.

[-] kshade@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

It may be more directed at them than you.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

Username checks out

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

True. For example we are all made of ~~delicious~~ nutritious meats.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 months ago

This is something we all need to remember

Have empathy and realize that people can have there own views. They aren't dumb because they disagree with you

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 3 months ago

The major difference is money. We should be banding together against the rich, but instead we distract ourselves with what we look like, what we sound like, where we come from, what team (sports, town, city, state, country, ...) we support, which sex we have, and a bunch of other things that divide us.

[-] Katrisia@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

Aliens are here to unite us (/s).

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago

Bro discovered Christianity

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

I think if you peel back the ego, the "self" is just obligations that we've made to try to create an "identity" like "I have to draw I'm an artist". "Oh, I have to go to school because I'm a smart person and I don't want to XYZ."

It's all just fluff, or an illusion. If we were to truly be free of all obligations we would find out quickly that we are all the same consciousness wearing different masks. I am me, and I am you, and you are me. If you were to be able to switch perspectives with someone else I'd be surprised if it felt any different than being in your own body.

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Every molecule that makes up our entire existence came from the fusion of a hot star, and no matter what it looks like right now, it will once again be both the precursor and the product of many more stars.

In that regard we are all identical and inconsequential.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

To paraphrase an old saw, there is nobody as mean as all of us

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?

[-] Vanshaj@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

There is an old saying where I live:

वसुधैव कुटुम्बकम् (Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam)

This means, the world is one family.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Yup we're all idiots

[-] babybus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, but also people have very different ideas of what good life is, and what stops them from having it.

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

And someone says they are a trump supporter and suddenly its all just calling everyone a fascist time.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 months ago

They get really mad when you point out that Harris is also fascist by there definition.

In reality they are in a echo chamber where they only see good things about Harris and bad things about Trump

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[-] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 months ago

Most people seem to want others not to have a good life, ignoring or disregarding the effects that might have on themselves.

Many if not most would sacrifice their own wellbeing if that guarantees that "the right people" will also suffer. They see the world as a zero sum game, and can't conceive the possibility of having a good life if others aren't having a bad one.

Most people suck, often to the point of being monstrous by any decent definition.

[-] TheSambassador@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

most

Source?

I'm pushing back on this viewpoint wherever I'm seeing it. Humans are certainly flawed in a lot of ways, especially in how easy it can be to mislead us, but this cynical worldview that most people are actively wanting others to hurt is not based in reality. Honestly it sounds like me when I was in the depths of depression.

I think we have a major problem with how we share and consume news. Stories are shared as screen-capped headlines that emphasize the Bad thing that happened, and even if you find the original article, it's stuffed with ads that make you not want to bother. Random one-off bad/stupid things that one person did somewhere far away are reported as world news without statistics and context.

The result? Increasing cynicism. The good, uplifting stories rarely come through. People begin to base their worldview and how they interact with other people on this "fact" that most people suck. This culminates in them becoming the thing that they think everyone is - they go through life scared of or angry at other people by default.

It isn't an inevitability. Maybe I'm wrong, but believing in people is a much better existence, even when they occasionally let me down.

[-] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 3 months ago

Source?

I mean... [ gestures broadly at everything ]

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah checks out for Lemmy

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[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 1 points 3 months ago

I only see people as an enemy if they've declared themselves as such. I'm not gonna make the first move, life is too short to make enemies with everyone I meet. That said, if you've got a swastika tattooed on your forehead then I'm gonna take that as a declaration that you're my enemy.

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