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[-] x00z@lemmy.world 35 points 3 hours ago

It's funny how you see American movies about the old times and there's always a train around, but in fact it was the people being around the train.

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 7 points 1 hour ago

Actually, every American town founded before 1950 had a train line going through it. Aside from people living on homesteads, and maybe some small antebellum towns, everybody lived in close distance to a train station before they were shut down and torn up.

Worth noting that this map is for passenger rail only. The cargo rail network is much bigger. Basically, this map shows whereever Amtrak runs, where as before the introduction of massively subsidized interstates in the US in 1956, every cargo rail company also ran profitable passenger rail traffic on a massive network that became today's cargo lines.

The cargo companies dumped their traffic onto the federal government in the 70s and have also ran massive cost cutting programs since, tearing up hundreds of thousands of miles of rail.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_rail_transportation_in_the_United_States

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 42 points 2 hours ago

Who Framed Roger Rabbit was a documentary. Not the toon town stuff. The part about the judge buying the trolley so he could shut it down to build a highway. We used to have a better rail system than anywhere else. Then the car and oil companies bought the tracks and paved over them in the 1920s to 1950s

[-] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 56 minutes ago

A perfect example of this is the Boston T. It's half the size it was 100 years ago and is still considered the 3rd best transportation network in the country, with a full 50% of all daily commutes to Boston happening on the T.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

"Who needs a car in LA? We got the best public transportation system in the world!"

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

Although honestly the feuding between the various tram/rail/bus companies contributed to their demise.

[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 65 points 4 hours ago

It really is crazy how bad the US rail system is. The last time I was taking a trip of about 1000 miles, I looked into taking amtrak. Not only was it more expensive than driving or flying, but it would take significantly longer as well, at 3 days. I know the train themselves are moving faster, and it's due to stops, but that's like 15mh average speed. What year is it?!?

[-] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 26 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

As bad as it is, when it does work out, it's way, way better than flying.

Took a trip to Minneapolis on Amtrak from Columbus, WI (closest station to my house in Madison). Everything is so much more low key than air travel. Seats are fairly comfy, and have legroom that might even beat first class air travel. Food is . . . no worse than airlines.

Most of all, I didn't feel tired at the end of the trip. Air travel always makes me want to spend the rest of the day in bed.

We'd probably go out of Wisconsin Dells next time. It takes the train an hour to go between the Dells and Columbus, and the extra drive time is less than that. But we also found this wonderful pizzeria not far from the station in Columbus, so idk.

[-] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 8 minutes ago

That's only like a 4 hr drive though. I drive farther than that for quick overnight trips all the time.

[-] sheridan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I'm about to board a 12 hour Amtrak ride from Boston to Richmond. It's a miserable trip (I've done it once before) but for two people round trip it cost us $300 less than any flights we could find when we were looking for tickets a month ago.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 24 minutes ago* (last edited 24 minutes ago)

Northeast coordinator is where Amtrak is at its best. Their coverage of the rest of the country is only barely worthwhile on cost and time.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 35 points 4 hours ago

Actually, the trains aren't moving faster. I don't think there's a single significant span of passenger rail rated for more than 60mph in the US.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 21 points 3 hours ago

Plus commuter trains get delayed frequently to make way for cargo trains.

[-] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 hours ago

That's because Amtrak only owns their own rails in the NEC (North East Corridor) Boston-NYC-Philly-DC. Everywhere else they are riding on privately owned freight railroad tracks, and the Amtrak trains are often shunted for freight to have priority.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

Which is illegal, but unenforced

If the government owns the lines, it's a different story, but most of the rail lines in the US are privately owned. So in most of the US commuter rail is using freight tracks on contract, with one of the stipulations being that the freight trains get priority.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 22 minutes ago* (last edited 22 minutes ago)

Other way around. Amtrak does have priority on all tracks per the 1973 Amtrak Improvement Act. However, this isn't enforced, and the rail companies are kicking and screaming to keep it from being enforced.

[-] maevyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 hours ago

NY to DC is solid, it’s the one inter-metro train I’ve taken that’s faster than driving or flying (when accounting for security and travel to/from the airport).

Using it really makes you realize how much better the train system could be. Not even bullet trains, and they’re so much better than cars.

[-] AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Absolutely agree. It's so much less frustrating too

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 5 points 2 hours ago

Brightline from Orlando to Miami. It's not fast by international standards but certainly more than 60mph

It's also super expensive so....

[-] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 3 hours ago

I'm more worried about all the lightning bolts Chicago can shoot out to the rest of the country.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 10 points 4 hours ago

I’m curious about this map because I definitely live near passenger rail and it’s not showing here.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 10 points 3 hours ago

Non-Amtrak line? I think this is Amtrak specific. There are a few bits of passenger service in the US outside Amtrak, but it wouldn't add much to this map.

[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 hours ago

The US map are all Amtrak services and the European map all mainline railways.

[-] gon@lemm.ee 19 points 6 hours ago

Iberia needs to keep up, damn it!

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 hour ago

They make up for what they don't have in volume by having crazy cheap and fast trains instead.

They also build them remarkably cheap as well. We should all be envious of Spain.

Portugal not included on account of being an Eastern European country

[-] egonallanon@lemm.ee 15 points 5 hours ago

Spain has the second largest high speed rail network in the world. They're doing alright.

[-] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 hours ago

High speed rail is worthless if you don't have the local rail to support it. That's where the most traffic occurs by far, with millions of passengers per day. Compare that with the capacity of a few dozen high speed trains and they're a mere drop in the bucket when it comes to mass transit.

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Be that as it may, Spain is highly urban and are quite good at building things like Metros within their cities as well.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago

Seriously what are they even doing, Siesta?

[-] Annoyed_Crabby 23 points 6 hours ago

Veiny ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

And it's crazy to think that Europe would fit into North America many times. I would like to see the NA city subways/trains added then compare them to Asia

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 20 points 2 hours ago
[-] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 2 hours ago

North America is more than the continental USA.

Canadian passenger service isn't much better than the US. Mexico isn't too bad.

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Where we're going, we won't need roads!

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