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submitted 2 weeks ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

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In response to Donald Trump’s re-election, some same-sex couples, like Ben Nelson and Adam Weinberger, are accelerating plans to marry, fearing potential rollbacks of LGBTQ rights.

Concerns stem from the Supreme Court’s 2022 overturning of Roe v. Wade and past statements from conservative justices suggesting interest in revisiting the 2015 Obergefell v. Hodges ruling that legalized same-sex marriage.

While the Respect for Marriage Act offers federal safeguards, uncertainty persists.

LGBTQ-friendly businesses are stepping up to support couples, but fears of broader restrictions, including on parenting options, remain widespread among the community.

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[-] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Trump was great for the economy, people rushed to get married, buy hard drives, canned food, rice, life insurance policies, plan funerals, finish that bucket list...

[-] WeUnite@lemm.ee 6 points 2 weeks ago

I'm still shocked by the number of gay, black, latino and women votes Trump got this election. I wish they would realize that racism, sexism and homophobia are what drives Trump's most loyal and core supporters.

[-] Alenalda@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

like anyone else gay, black, latino and women voters are themselves capable of racism, sexism and homophobia

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

They will sadly

[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago

Do these people not realize that the government can just invalidate their marriage and punish them?

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Breaking up marriages is recognized worldwide as an act of genocide, but putting restrictions on who can marry isn’t as universally recognized.

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

The world hasn't cared about genocides since 1945.

[-] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago

The world has never cared about a genocide that happened within a nation's borders.

Had Hitler not invaded other countries, there wouldn't have been any consequences more severe than a public condemnation.

Hell, there would have provably been foreign support for genociding Romani people.

[-] Akasazh@feddit.nl 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Rwanda and further Yugoslavia are both exceptions to your statement

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

The world at large shrugged its shoulders at Rwanda. France literally handed over people under their protection to the Interahamwe, knowing full well they'd be killed on the spot. Belgium actually had soldiers get killed by Rwandan military, and did nothing. The world went to very incredibly great lengths to make sure that they didn't have to get involved until after the genocide was nearly complete.

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yugoslavia is an exception, but Rwanda only happened because the world didn't care.

[-] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

They did it to my mom. She and her partner drove to San Francisco on that weekend when they were doing gay marriages in the mid 2000s. That ,marriage was canceled once they straightened iut the laws.

They're legally wed right here in Arizona now, but I wouldn't put it past these fucks to try to annul their marriage again.

[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm sure Trump really cares about international law

[-] III@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

He doesn't care about domestic law. I doubt he would care about laws he personally enacted if they stood in opposition to his in-the-moment wants.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

The Republican Party is turning into the Taliban of the United States. On the other hand, Americans knew that and knew what Trump is all about when they voted, and they walked right into this with eyes wide open, serving both Houses of Congress and the Presidency to that party. We deserve everything that's coming to us.

[-] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

They aren't turning into; they have always been. They have finally consolidated power. I don't even live in the US and I am dreading the worldwide ramifications of your election. Where can I go to escape? The moon? Apparently not even that.

[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

there is US citizens not allowed to vote, and we did not choose this nor deserve it fuck that

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like Americans are going to learn until it really, really hurts. I hope we get all the pain that comes from this straight on. No relief until we start voting differently.

[-] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And at the same time Democrats are driving people right into their arms by refusing to address certain issues, and demonizing everyone, who isn't on board with 100% of their agenda, as a racist, bigot, etc.

[-] Firebirdie713@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

My husband and I did this after the Dobbs decision came down and cited 'future reconsiderations' for Casey and Obergefell. Called a handful of friends and family and told them to meet us at the courthouse in two weeks.

Now, we are bracing to help people who may have to travel to our blue state to get married, just like they had to 15-ish years ago. We may not be able to leave, but we have some means to help others, so we are doing what we can.

[-] NotBillMurray@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm a registered minister in the church of the latter day dude based out of Oregon and am happy to marry lgbtq folks.

[-] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

I'd imagine any church of latter dude to be pretty chill

[-] NotBillMurray@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

We mostly just abide.

In all seriousness, I got it while I was stationed down in Georgia in the army. Your options to get married were to go in front of a judge (good luck with that), or pay a "minister" anywhere from 100-250 or whatever to ask you whether or not you knew each other, if you were in love, and whether or not you were getting married just for tax purposes.

I thought that was bullshit, so I registered with the church of the latter day dude and married people for the cost of a lunch or a six pack of decent beer.

[-] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

That's awesome! Such great work to do

[-] jjagaimo@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I wonder what the chances are that the coming administration invalidate such marriages, probably on some dumb Christian nationalist grounds

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Supreme Court has already signaled that gay marriage is on the chopping block.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Weren't they against sharia law?

[-] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Only if you call it that.

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder how this would work with their anti-trans initiatives. If a transwoman tried to marry her girlfriend, would it technically be legal under their backwards laws?

[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago

Transwomen aren't people, silly! /s

No, they see us as criminals and will deny every right they can, marriage, public service, equal treatment under the law, medical insurance/medication, freedom of association, speech, and even our right to exist. The point is to criminalize and erase our existence from public life.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's already happening in Italy, so there's no reason to believe the GOP would hold back.

[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

the Democrats defended Roe v. Wade so hard it fell so it is scary what four years of Republican rule will bring

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

We don't get much from the democrats. But at least we do get something. I'd really hate to be one of those people that spent the whole last year as "useful idiots" for foreign Nations and oligarchs. Screaming about how Democrats are just the same as Republicans and just genocidal murders.

I assume most didn't want things to get worse. Didn't want trump. This has to be like ashes on their tongue. I hope that they and the people they misinformed/demotivated. Will be ready to show solidarity if we're ever given another chance at elections. And do what it takes to keep Republicans and their allies far away from any elected office for the rest of their lives.

[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

tasted like ashes since the one and only time was allowed to cast a vote and Obama got it

both parties have utterly failed the US and it is past time to face the reality that both parties are bought and paid for

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I knew you would not be one of the ones that learned. Enjoy the Trump administration. You worked hard for it. 😀

/EDIT/

Real talk though folks. I'm chuckling a bit at the pyrrhic silent down votes. I bet I could name every one. But don't be like the magats. Don't give into the sunk cost fallacy and commit to destroying things like verdy and the others. There's no value in unrealized ideological purity.

This will be a harsh setback. And a lot of our friends and family are going to suffer. But they're counting on everyone getting their shit together. Learning the lessons that need to be learned. Standing in solidarity against the oligarchs. Better still, liberating the minds of those they manipulate to stand with us.

Whether you want an actual left wing party to electe. Or the relegation of neoliberal and liberal economic policy to the dustbins of history. That starts with relegating Republicans to the history books like the Whigs. Running and supporting actual leftist candidates locally. Especially in red States. And working to make democrats better at the national level where it makes sense. If Republicans disappeared tomorrow the current Democratic Party would crumble in an instant. Splitting into two at minimum. Wouldn't that be a beautiful sight to see. But we're not going to get there by destroying things. Only by building.

[-] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 0 points 2 weeks ago

Enjoy the Trump administration. You worked hard for it. 😀

Interesting how you blame people on the left for not supporting either one of these right-wing candidates and then get all giddy throwing Trump's victory in their face. Your comment is indistinguishable from some MAGA supporter posting on Facebook.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Perfect is the enemy of good

Or you’re just a right wing shill… probably that

[-] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee -1 points 2 weeks ago

This statement is such a cop out used to justify literally anything.

I'm a right-wing shill and not the person telling people to "enjoy the Trump administration?" I guess having standards and wanting to hold politicians accountable for their actions, politicians who are supposed to be above all this right-wing villainy, especially when those actions lead them to losing control of every branch of the government, is no longer en vogue in the Democratic party. Everything they do is "good" by virtue, and criticism is not tolerated, just like we're a bunch of MAGA sycophants.

Seems like you guys would rather have the Republicans win elections than ever consider embracing the left that's supposed to be the backbone of the party.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Sorry, I must be talking about a different country. In the USA, I don’t think anyone ever claimed the left was the backbone of the democratic party

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