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UnitedHealth uses AI model with 90% error rate to deny care, lawsuit alleges

https://arstechnica.com/health/2023/11/ai-with-90-error-rate-forces-elderly-out-of-rehab-nursing-homes-suit-claims/

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[-] JonsJava@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

Locking. About 50 reports. I'm a volunteer, and don't have enough time for this.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 139 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Thompson, who was named CEO in April 2021, was pronounced dead at Mount Sinai West.

Good thing he had health insurance for his stay at Mount Sinai; some aren't so lucky thanks to worthless puddles of filth like this.

Edit: Zero sympathy. Negative sympathy, even.

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 63 points 2 weeks ago

Link above to ARS Technica article titled: UnitedHealth uses AI model with 90% error rate to deny care, lawsuit alleges.

[-] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 126 points 2 weeks ago

CEOs have not been held accountable for their actions by the legal system. This is inevitable with the way the United States is set up

[-] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 72 points 2 weeks ago

If this happens to two or three more CEOs over the next couple of months, they'll change their position on gun control, not change their behaviors that made somebody do this. And "they're coming for our guns" morons would find a way to not only excuse it, but fully support it, at least at first.

[-] tburkhol@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago

If this happens to multiple CEOs, companies will just implement secret-service style security for the C-suite. Wouldn't even be a rounding error in CEO compensation.

[-] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Absolutely this, this is a nucleation point for disarming the citizenship. Step one for a dictatorship.

[-] recapitated@lemmy.world 111 points 2 weeks ago

It should go without saying that such violence is not good and not supportable.

That said, I also think those who make monopolistic fortunes off the sick while also dictating refusal of care to the sick are categorically not civilians. It is what it is.

[-] anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe he had a preexisting condition?

[-] Im_old@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago

Like being a greedy sociopathic bastard?

[-] einlander@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Death is a preexisting condition.

[-] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago

Disagree with the first point. Perhaps if this happened to an evil oligarch often enough for a while, they'd be less inclined to fuck us over hard enough to make themselves targets. Put a little fear in them as a deterrent. Why should this piece of shit get more sympathy than a convenience store cashier who gets shot during a robbery?

I hope more of the people behind the erosion of our rights and opportunities and quality of life become victims in the near future. Kill a couple dozen of them and watch as a couple million of us get to live longer, better lives. I'll take that trade any day of the fucking week. Anybody who calls this a call to violence isn't paying attention to the status quo violence against millions every day that they're defending. This is a call to a net reduction in violence. A mild fever to defend against a deadly virus. I'd love it if the fever weren't necessary, but let's not be so naive.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago

Oh no not violence against the rich! Inexcusable I say!

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[-] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 48 points 2 weeks ago

I'm sorry, bullets aren't covered by my healthcare executive sympathy plan.

[-] Irremarkable@fedia.io 46 points 2 weeks ago

I am honestly shocked that something like this hadn't happened much sooner

[-] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago
[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 34 points 2 weeks ago

Having just had someone I care about go through the American health care system, I get it.

My person went through months of agony and will never be completely the same, for absolutely no reason other than the system trying to squeeze a little more money out.

I would never do this kind of thing. I don't think it's the way. But I get it. More than once I fantasized about burning down the head offices of the insurance company. I just don't think you can kill and hurt vulnerable people at massive scale for profit with your smug little grin, and expect people to ignore it forever, only because there's a set of traditions right now that makes it all legal.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 25 points 2 weeks ago

private insurance profits only exist when human beings suffer. they cant both pay all required healthcare services and profit. human beings are required to suffer for their stock price.

theyve done a great job of convincing people that somehow magically their profits are separate from their required payouts, but that is a farce to make those reliant on private insurance feel better about fucking human beings over.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 weeks ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

I am honestly surprised people fucked over by health insurance haven't tried to take things into their own hands before, if that's what this is. And if that's not what this is, it surprises me that it hasn't happened yet.

Plenty of people (me included) have been severely fucked over by insurance companies. I'm not willing to kill anyone, but there are a lot of people out there who are. Especially if they know they're dying and have nothing to lose.

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[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 weeks ago

Unfortunately, rather than distribute his pay and bonuses and benefits in order to provide a living wage for hospital staff, the rest of the upper management will have a benefits-cutting contest to decide which one of their own to elevate.

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

CEOs of exploitative corporations should take notice.

[-] aramis87@fedia.io 28 points 2 weeks ago

I have never had worse "insurance" than when I had United "Healthcare". They have you a big book full of all their "providers", but when you called to make an appointment, you were told they'd left United quite a while back and shouldn't be in the book. A few providers were still in network, but they weren't accepting new patients. Their "provider support" line was completely useless, because they would only read you out the "options" available in the book, the one with all the ghost providers.

My SIL in southern New Jersey ended up with them for some reason. She needed to see an OB/Gyn due to some abnormal bleeding that had been going on for too long. She went through their provider carousel and finally found one provider who was still in network and also still accepting new patients. That provider was 2.5 hours away from her, in the very other end of New Jersey.

I eventually did find one local provider who was in network, except they never did any comprehensive medical visits; you had to visit them for one issue at a time, at least a week apart. They'd give you a prescription or a referral but (once again) you were entirely on your own finding someone to accept the referral. Like there were times I'd make a dozen phone calls a day for weeks, trying to find someone who could see me - it was very much an entire part-time job trying to see someone!

I ended up switching insurance and have ended up 'captured' within a regional hospital's provider network. The hospital bought up a bunch of local independent providers in all the different specialities. I'm really unhappy with the continued corporatization of healthcare and the conglomeration of hospital networks - but the ability to call one number, be given a specialist within reasonable driving distance and (in that same phone call) be given an appointment within a reasonable timeframe is just so refreshing!

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 20 points 2 weeks ago

"A person familiar with the matter told CNBC that the suspect was wearing a black hoodie and black pants and was carrying a gray backpack. It’s believed the suspect used a firearm with a silencer." So this was a hit? I'll grant that a lot of people might have wanted to take this guy out, but the real question is who was so motivated as to make it happen?

First reported in NY Post: https://nypost.com/2024/12/04/us-news/ceo-of-unitedhealthcare-fatally-shot-outside-of-hilton-hotel-in-nyc-in-possible-targeted-attack-sources/

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

but the real question is who was so motivated as to make it happen?

Anyone who has been denied necessary healthcare by UHC or anyone who's loved one died because they were denied necessary healthcare by UHC would have a motive.

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

suspect was wearing a black hoodie and black pants

Me: Nope, never seem anyone like that before...

Officer: What about the guy in this picture wearing a black hoodie and pants that you appear to be staring at in this security video?

Me: Yeah... doesn't sound familiar.

Officer: Sir, that was 5 minutes ago...

[-] Erasmus@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

but the real question is who was so motivated as to make it happen

Well there are 330+ million people on the United States so…

[-] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 12 points 2 weeks ago

Probably safer for bystanders than dynamite.

How long till Blackwater is authorized to operate on US soil?

Looks like we're speed running Cyberpunk!

[-] KiwiFlavor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago

Get ready for corpos walking around with those giant Arasaka bodyguards

[-] Idontevenknowanymore@mander.xyz 10 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago
[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

A food cart vendor near the scene told NBC News that he did not hear any gunshots but saw police vehicles and two helicopters in the area.

Why is news media so stupid?

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[-] little_cow@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

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