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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

Is it bots? Are those humans whos mission is to cause chaos? Is the weird behaviour caused by the creation of the concept of lemmy?

Somebody please explain to me wtf is going on.

They answer destructive comments, assuming shit, demanding shit. Are they trolls?

Are they being paid for causing chaos? It’s insane

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 49 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

What had me block the instance was how the majority of Hexbear posts and users I was encountering initially was how annoyingly spammy they were. Acting like Lemmy was Twitch chat, spamming giant ugly reaction stickers everywhere, literally behaving like 12 year olds.

Then I also started to notice the far-right authoritarian simping buried under all that chaos.

[-] klemptor@startrek.website 15 points 6 months ago

Yes! The fucking stickers are so annoying.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 10 points 6 months ago

My understanding of the stickers is that on their instance they aren't massive. So it's some disconnect between their UI and others. But I might be misremembering.

[-] mke@programming.dev 17 points 6 months ago

If I see a comment with 12 replies, all from the same instance, all just the same emoji over and over, I don't care that it's small, that's spam to me. They have their culture, so let them have fun. But I'm not part of it, so leave me out, it's annoying. I think both of these are fair takes.

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[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's a combination of tankies and some more level headed leftists. They do have a decent proportion of OK users and the occasional decent meme, but the frequent genocide denialism and too many tankies have resulted in a lot of blocks and bans.

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 22 points 6 months ago

The "Just Kidding, but maybe not" kind of memes are both common in the tankie group as well in the right-wing group, which makes me thing it's just the same people with different costumes, also known as a reskinned model.

[-] swirle13@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Sounds like political compass shit, left or right, but primarily in the "authoritarian" top half

[-] squid_slime@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

The political compass has got to be the most bullshit metric, I'm according to the compos a left libertarian. It doesn't account for theory and for people who are marxist and understand that communism has not yet materialised. Anyway just a slight annoyance i have.

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[-] ech@lemm.ee 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They were founded after being kicked off reddit, then self isolated from the fediverse for years, creating the echoiest of echo chambers. It's like those Appalachian families that were so isolated they basically developed their own culture, language and all. They've spent too long "struggle sessioning" together and driven out any of the more reasonable users with their purity tests. They think they're the "true" Lemmy users and only refederated to "spread the word" and antagonize all the "liberals" (read: anyone that's not 100% with them). The one thing I dislike about my server is that they haven't defederated from that place.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 10 points 6 months ago

It's like those Appalachian families that were so isolated they basically developed their own culture, language and all.

Very apt description. You forgot the inbreeding part; very much relevant for Hexbear.

[-] squid_slime@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

I mean.. Fuck liberals though

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

One note, "liberal" to them is synonymous with "nazi," and they do actually, openly, want to kill you for being one (from this comment alone lol, and me too, and everyone else they label liberal). They're losers who will never succeed in revolution, and most of them won't do anything beyond cry online, but they should still be considered dangerous and untrustworthy as one of them is liable to pull some dumb shit in the name of their religion and their god Marx (yes it is a religion if they treat it like one.)

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[-] fastfinge@rblind.com 29 points 6 months ago

All responsible server admins have them defederated. Hate speech and genocide denial, that is almost certainly against the law in Canada, Germany, and other places. We defederated lemmygrad for the same reason.

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 6 months ago

My instance is hosted in Germany and does not seem to defederate from hexbear, I'm subscribed to !history@hexbear.net from this account.

[-] urda@lebowski.social 11 points 6 months ago

I’m sorry to hear that, you should fix that.

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[-] sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 months ago

I specifically chose my instance because it’s not blocked or being blocked by too many instances.

I’d rather judge myself what I want to be exposed to.

I guess server admins who haven’t defederated them are either with them ORRR they put more responsibility towards their users.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago

In your instance' case, db0 has said IIRC that the Anarchists on Hexbear, while not aligning 100% with them, are generally good and worth being federated with.

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[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 17 points 6 months ago

It's where r/chapotraphouse went after it got banned from reddit.

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

That sub was so disappointing. I stumped upon it by mistake one day, thinking that I'd find cheapo trap house music there. It sounded like a fun genre to listen to, like back in the early 2010s when brostep was huge. Miss those days...

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 months ago

Hexbear isn't being paid for anything, they are largely made up of Anarchists and Marxist-Leninists. Hexbear has been unafilliated with Lemmy for years before integrating with Lemmy a year ago.

You might be seeing their zero tolerance policy for liberalism in action, but if you genuinely want to know what their users are about, just visit it. Just hop on over to Hexbear.net and scroll the news megathread and whatnot, try to understand what's going on.

Finally, I want to question why you believe anyone would be paid to mess with Lemmy, moreover when the lead developers are aligned fairly closely on ideological lines. If they were here to "cause chaos," why would the devs support them ideologically? To ruin their own network? That narrative is just a wild hypothesis.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 12 points 6 months ago

Nope, just good ol' fashioned communists! Beware the red scare!

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago

They have a zero-tolerance policy for political viewpoints that differ from their own. That becomes a breeding ground for an extremely toxic echo chamber.

[-] dumples@midwest.social 10 points 6 months ago

I have been doing the "The Will to Change: Men, Masculinity, and Love" book club at menby@hexbear.net recently which has been my only real interaction with hexbear. The book club has been great so far and if anyone wants to talk about feminism and masculinity should join.

There are a lot of in-group signaling across their own users which mostly shows up with acronyms, specific phrases and calling everyone comrade. This hasn't been that difficult in the book club which is long form text and discussion and everyone is respectful and nice. That being said I have blocked a few communities at hexbear because I have found them annoying and taking over my feed. So like everything here at Lemmy I had curate my own experience

[-] honeynut@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago
[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 6 months ago

Just block people you don't want to interact with. My instance isn't even federated with Hexbear but there are still people fitting that description. And plenty of folks there didn't fit that description.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 months ago

!meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

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