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[-] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 5 points 36 minutes ago* (last edited 30 minutes ago)

The NYC subway has a bit of a learning curve, but it really isn't that bad. People are pretty understanding about non-locals being confused and will answer questions readily, and pretty much the worst case scenario is that you accidentally catch an express train, miss the stop you were shooting for, and have to go across to the other platform to go a few stops back in the other direction. Being unwilling to even try is just baby brained, especially for a "travel journalist."

Oh she's a "travel journalist" who almost exclusively does cruises and Disney resorts. That makes more sense.

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 2 points 8 minutes ago* (last edited 8 minutes ago)

Ilive in a part of Florida where public transit isn't really a thing, so learning how to ride

IN FLORIDA ONLY UNTOUCHABLES USE PUBLIC TRANSIT AND LEARNING HOW TO RIDE LIKE A POOR IS HARD

[-] blame@hexbear.net 9 points 2 hours ago

how do you travel 1/3rd of the year and not know how public transit works

[-] Posadas@hexbear.net 4 points 2 hours ago

Exclusively going to Disney and going on cruises

[-] blunder@hexbear.net 15 points 3 hours ago

What in the fuck publication is uploading this Instagram post + diary entry ass article?

[-] SwitchyandWitchy@hexbear.net 11 points 4 hours ago

Motorcyclists have a point when they call carbrains cagers. It should be a more widely adopted term.

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 8 points 3 hours ago

Also very popular with the bicycle crowd, just to note

[-] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 5 points 3 hours ago

I use cagers regularly, it's such a perfect encapsulation of that terminal carbrain mentality.

[-] absolutefuckinidiot@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 3 hours ago

Big fan of this term going to keep it in mind

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 41 points 6 hours ago

She seems very attached to normal human being life.

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 5 points 2 hours ago

Don't @ me about footprint but this is on the way to having the personal CO2-Footprint of the actual cruise ship by going so often all the breakdowns per passenger just end up at 100% again

[-] red_stapler@hexbear.net 24 points 6 hours ago

I’ll bet in the million times she’s gone to Disney she hasn’t ridden the Fkn monorail either.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 63 points 7 hours ago

So she's a travel columnist and she doesn't do the thing the people do where she travels?

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 42 points 6 hours ago
[-] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 25 points 6 hours ago

I hate the gatekeeping and elitist thing of "You don't truly like X if you only do popular thing", but she's really tempting me to do that with travel.

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 29 points 5 hours ago

Honestly I don't think cruises and disneyland qualify you to be "well traveled" in any sense of the word other than "has technically been to many places" and even that's only from the cruises.

[-] glans@hexbear.net 1 points 42 minutes ago

Its like counting places in which you had a 1 hour stopover.

I suggest that you haven't been somewhere until you've gone grocery shopping there.

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 28 points 5 hours ago

traveling to different disney resorts is like traveling to a bunch of airports

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 6 points 2 hours ago

i've been to mcdonalds in 120 countries

[-] propter_hog@hexbear.net 39 points 7 hours ago

Sounds about american

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 34 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Medieval peasant brain on full display.

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 10 points 3 hours ago

This honestly feels more like medieval lord brain, which I also think is a big part of car brain

Share a space with the commoners? By god, what if I catch the poor off of them?

[-] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 5 points 3 hours ago

Yeah I agree, have to imagine a medieval peasant would actually be pretty psyched to ride a metro.

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 5 points 2 hours ago

I don't mean this as an attack but one could write books about how much cars retroactively shaped perception of transport and city planning before cars. It's insane. The usual thing seems to be to assume that because everybody has a car now everybody just used to have an individual horse, commuting from their suburbian slash peasant dwelling living place on horse roads with horse congestion to downtown (centrally planned around 50.000 horses to the detriment of 8 cranks that walked). For 99% of history and for 99% of people your options to get anywhere were:

a) walking b) public transport of some sort

Then came train, bicycle, automobile at around a 50 year timeframe. First one revolutionized public transport, second one revolutionized individual transport and then for another 50 years cars were hated by everybody but the rich dipshits that could afford them endangering anybody else.

You ever hear someone say "roads [or roadspace] was always for cars"? Yeah, it's that. It's assuming that because the world is the way that it is now, it used to be that way forever, except horse.

[-] glans@hexbear.net 2 points 27 minutes ago

Just to add in that some places people traveled on water regularly. Even built canals to bring the water where it wasn't.

Also in the winter you can snowshoe, ski or sled. If there's enough snow.

Doesnt dispute any point tho.

[-] crime@hexbear.net 66 points 7 hours ago

tbf the nyc subway is extremely convoluted and unintuitive to use compared to more civilized metros, lots of arcane rules like "only the first 3 cars can fit in this station so if you want to get off there you better remember where in the train you are" or "trains with prime numbers only stop at every other station during rush hour" which are never posted anywhere. It's like the least beginner-friendly metro of any on earth, even ones where the beginner doesn't speak the local language.

that said it's still not that hard, you buy a ticket, you try to get on the right train, and worst-case you end up 20 blocks away from your destination and try again

[-] DerRedMax@hexbear.net 3 points 2 hours ago

Having lived in NYC, I completely agree, but Boston would like to have a word.

I was craving the clarity and forward thinking that the MTA has compared to the MBTA.

[-] crime@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago

Oh yeah the T is garbage, but the difference is Bostonians don't pretend it's anything other than a straight-up dumpster fire. It's also substantially easier to figure out than whatever tf is happening with the NYC subway. Plus they've at least been experimenting with fare-free service.

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[-] Flyberius@hexbear.net 5 points 2 hours ago

What in the ever loving fuck?

[-] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 4 points 2 hours ago

The East Asian skull shape is unable to comprehend this even though it's peak efficiency, American exceptionalism right here baby.

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 10 points 5 hours ago

every western transit designer should be required by law to visit one or more major east asia cities to see how they do it. I've been a few places in taiwan, RoK, japan and even as a non-local language speaker the transit was super easy to use. lots of colour coding on paths to guide you around and signage was really good too. this was 10+ years ago now but these cities definitely set the bar to me. I'm curious what modern transit looks like in mainland china, I've never been.

[-] regul@hexbear.net 39 points 7 hours ago

transit apps have trivialized all of this

you don't even need a Metrocard anymore!

[-] crime@hexbear.net 24 points 6 hours ago

Any system designed for the general population that's so complicated you need an app navigate it is a bad system.

[-] regul@hexbear.net 5 points 4 hours ago

You don't need an app, it just removes the entire learning curve. Honestly it's three systems that were kludged together, and some parts are a century old. It should be better, but it's understandable for what it is.

[-] crime@hexbear.net 6 points 3 hours ago

What it is is a primitive garbage metro that new yawkers have a weird superiority complex about

[-] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 22 points 7 hours ago

“only the first 3 cars can fit in this station so if you want to get off there you better remember where in the train you are”

Not once in the 40 years I lived in NYC has this happened to me.

[-] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 16 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

This is much more common on the LIRR or NJ Transit than the subway. Certain stations only allow the first 10 cars, last four cars, etc

[-] crime@hexbear.net 17 points 6 hours ago

maybe it was construction-related, if the intercom worked I might've been able to hear what the conductor was trying to say about it instead of a garbled static version of the teacher's voice in charlie brown

[-] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 11 points 6 hours ago

The old South Ferry station used to be like this, otherwise I can't remember of any others.

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[-] GiorgioBoymoder@hexbear.net 18 points 7 hours ago

"trains with prime numbers only stop at every other station during rush hour"

Shirley you can't be serious?

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[-] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 23 points 6 hours ago

You spend over 25% of the year traveling... And you've never gone somewhere with lots of public transit? Ok not NYC which is one of few transit systems in the US that's worth anything... But what never big cities in... Europe? Asia? Atleast to pass through em for a few days if most of your travel is rural (which I doubt).

Just going to Tokyo and only taking the taxi.

Or what she just goes to LA like 20 times a year?

[-] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 28 points 6 hours ago

Or what she just goes to LA like 20 times a year?

No she mostly just goes to Disneyland in Florida.

[-] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 11 points 4 hours ago

Madness. I mean I get it on one tiny level... There are things I like doing more often than the average amount... But Disney... Really. You wanna be a child that bad?

Also ya totally makes you a big time travel head to go to the same theme park for the same managed experience every time.

[-] RoabeArt@hexbear.net 3 points 2 hours ago

Even as a kid, the thought of going to Disney never appealed to me, and I always loved theme park rides and carnival shit.

[-] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 28 points 6 hours ago

Goes to Disneyland 35 days a year, complains about having to take public transit. Checks out

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 39 points 7 hours ago

It's understandable to be confused by the strange commercialized transit scheme in New York. Probably not as understandable to be an adult and not know how to read a map but that's the education system's failure, not a moral failure.

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