125
submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by shapis@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Since Lemmy is federated, and the admins of each instance choose what’s allowed and what’s not in their own instance.

How do you feel about what’s allowed and what’s not in your current instance ?

I’ll start: I’ve read people complaining about my instance admins, but I haven’t experienced nor seen anything I specifically disagree with.

And I’ve read things they wrote that I absolutely agree with, like not federating with Meta under any circumstances.

So for now, I’m happy with it. If I get banned randomly, I don’t think I’d go to a different instance, though. I’d probably just stop visiting Lemmy altogether.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Sh.itjust.works has been brilliant, tbh.

High uptime, reasonable admins.

Very happy with it

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

I'm on world. Fuck the admins of world.

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

.ml here, I'm happy with this community. I know the reputation it has, but honestly, I haven't really seen it. I'm a hardcore leftist, but I've been very critical of China, Russia, etc. And I'm not a tankie. Obviously haven't been banned or had my comments removed.

The mods here seem quite reasonable, and of course if folks don't agree, there are a lot of other instances.

I used to be a free-speech absolutist when I was young, but then I realized that there isn't such a thing. Even the few places online that pride themselves on having "no censorship" like 4-chan still have a handful of things that they don't allow.

Quite frankly, I think those places are pretty nasty overall and I have no desire to emulate them. Racists, Pedos, lgbt-phobes don't need a platform or to have their opinions elevated or taken seriously.

I wouldn't think a top university's physics department is improved by devoting classes and curriculum to flat earth or 7-day creationism. Likewise, I don't think a forum or server is made better by allowing racists and bigots to have a safe space on it.

Of course, you have to decide what crosses the line, but welcome to real life. There's a difference between a hardcore neo-nazi who thinks Jews and black folks are literal sub-humans, and your 87 year-old grandpa who unironically calls the employees at his favorite asian buffet, "Chinamen."

[-] tiredturtle@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

In general communities it's ok here but in global events it's easy to see in the modlog that certain topics which are not favorable for Socialist-In-Name-Only are hidden very fast.

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

I haven't checked the log, but I get my news from several different sources, Lemmy is only one of them.

load more comments (9 replies)
[-] pH3ra@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago

"Censorship" has become a buzzword and lost all of its meaning

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 6 points 1 day ago

The line is at least very blurred with moderation. One person's moderation is another person's censorship.

[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Its the same thing. People are just primed into thinking that censorship is universally bad in every instance.

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] kristina@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

hell yeah brother 1,000,000 banned reactionaries and transphobes

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago
[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 115 points 3 days ago

I run my own instance, so supremely displeased as expected.

load more comments (6 replies)
[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Both on lemm.ee and thelemmy.club its not very strict its just Common sense rules.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 days ago

I'm happy with Lemmy.ml. I feel like moderation is taken seriously here and that is a very good thing. I don't care for "free speech" that provides a platform for immoral points of view. For example, I do not need to consider the opinions of racists or Nazis. I've heard them plenty and there is no redeeming value in their speech. It is a settled debate. Anyone who doesn't understand that deserves your suspicion.

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Also on .ml and agree. Nazi shit on an instance makes it unusable as far as I'm concerned.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[-] Shimitar@feddit.it 5 points 2 days ago

I am the only (AFAIK) Italian instance and pretty happy. No censorship.

I don't know how people from Lemmy.world stand it, honestly.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 44 points 3 days ago

I'm not being forced to say this but I love our Communist dictatorship of the proletariat admins. They keep us safe behind our Great Communist Firewall and make sure I only see things that are good for me. I have fun with the slop and treats they give me, everyone here is very happy. There are no fights among our people and we all are always in agreement. No one ever asks for real freedom and my family is never threatened for doubting the actions of our appointed Supreme Leaders. We have temporary bans (which in our language we call "gulag") that are necessary and only reserved for those who wish to destroy our way of life, which we all equally benefit from and enjoy, so that we remain safe. We all have portraits of PPB in our home and daily recite the TrueAnon Rules. We have reading groups to make us better shitposters and if we do not do the reading we are all publicly reminded of our flaws and failures so that we may improve ourselves in the future. We all cry tears of joy that we no longer must touch grass or logout, we are all terminally online for our own good and for our community. We are very happy and everything is normal and we enjoy higher standards of freedoms than do users on other instances, our strict rules are only there to protect us. I'm not paid or forced to say this and my family is safe, please do not SEND FOR HELP. WE ARE NOT FORCED TO EAT BEANIS AND DRINK PISS TO SURVIVE, WE DO IT BECAUSE WE LOVE IT.

[-] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 3 days ago

it made me get off of lemmy.world

load more comments (27 replies)
[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 days ago

I find, it's useful to piss off the nazis. For example, lemmy.ml has a word filter, which has hardly an impact on anything. But the free-speech absolutists who want to be allowed to say that we should murder ethnic groups of people, because they think that's an opinion, they see that as censorship, so they don't care to join here.

load more comments (4 replies)
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Not bad. The thing with "censorship" is that there are no real "free-speech" instances, all instances have opinions they deem intolerable and thus prune (whether selectively or overtly), and many selectively federate and defederate in a manner that makes one camp of thought more dominant, ie liberalism on Lemmy.world via defederation from Hexbear and Lemmygrad, etc.

Lemmy.ml is quicker to remove comments that break the rules than other instances, but is also more broadly federated and thus gets more points of view than, say, Lemmy.world. Lemmy.world on the other hand is more selective with what it removes, but intentionally defederates from instances with heavy concentrations of Marxists, a more subtle form of "censorship" that ultimately shapes the dominant narratives on its instance.

What this ultimately means is that the answer is to openly admit bias, which exists in everyone, and accept that as a natural consequence of the fediverse model. I wouldn't go to Lemmy.world if I wanted to know the opinion of Marxists just like I wouldn't go to Lemmygrad if I wanted to know the opinion of liberals on a subject, this recognition of bias is an intrinsic aspect of the federated model and needs to be openly recognized, otherwise sabre rattling about "censorship" between instances becomes a never-ending source of unconstructive drama.

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 49 points 3 days ago

that there are no real "free-speech" instances,

such spaces fill up with nazis anyway as decent people leave because there are so many nazis around

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 35 points 3 days ago

Absolutely, it's why "free speech" advocates and "nonviolent activists" indirectly end up supporting the most heinous speech and most violent systems, by defanging any resistance towards injustice, injustice thrives.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 26 Dec 2024
125 points (89.3% liked)

Asklemmy

44151 readers
1604 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy 🔍

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS