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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

It's just plain weird to me that this isn't seen as the lowest bar in the world, but I'm definitely still taking the W.

[-] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Orphan-crushing machine refuses to accelerate crushing orphans is a now feel good story yet again.

[-] Shard@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

This false dichotomy of all or nothing merely benefits the status quo.

A small improvement is better than no improvement and all progress has to start with a first step, somewhere, somehow.

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

But this isn't a small improvement.

The DEI policy was already in place.

When that got enacted was the improvement.

This is just not a step backward.

A step forward would be something like... we've restructered into a democratically run co-op, in a tri cameral structure, your costco membership now grants you a vote in something approximating the US House of Representatives, employees now all get votes in some higher authority body approximating the Senate, and then the board of directors acts as a multi person executive branch.

[-] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

In 2024, "not a step backwards" = good news.

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 weeks ago

How is Costco an orphan crushing machine?

[-] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Costco is slightly less egregious than its counterparts, but it is still very much a part of the system and went along with the insane profiteering price increases on essentials.

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

Costco: Has higher wages and better benefits than competitors, pushes back to keep their DEI policies to protect their most vulnerable employees

You: they're evil

[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

the thing is, the system in which we have to function forces corporations and people to do evil things, even against their intention or will. being good means sooner or later becoming bankrupt as now you're working against the system and losing profits.

as another person mentioned - if their suppliers artificially raise prices, whether Costco wants it or not, they have to raise them as well. the market just forced them to do something that limited the amount of things an individual can purchase with their paycheque (as we know, salaries haven't been exactly keeping up with inflation), and pushed more people into poverty as a result

no corporation is good, and very few are still fighting against becoming fully evil. and as you can see, the fights get more ridiculous every year, the bar of being "good" keeps getting lower

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Doesn't Costco negotiate pretty brutally to secure favorable terms for its purchasing and that ostensibly reflects in the prices members eventually benefit from? I've heard that multiple times and I can't really criticize Costco since I have noticed they really haven't seemed to have artifically price-gouged or have barely even raised prices on much or what I've come to depend on and expect from them

Think I saw the purchasing negotating rooms, looked like a police station. Very intimidating lol, glad I'm on the member side of that one

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 weeks ago

Sort of. These policies are really a mixed bag. A lot of fire departments in the 90's were doing affirmative action things and wound up having to stop because it was getting people hurt and things were burning.

Turns out if there's a job that's actually important, you should probably hire the best people for the job. Not the best "of certain demographic" that applied.

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

was getting people hurt and things were burning.

What are you even trying to say?

[-] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 3 weeks ago

They went from hiring and promoting based on testing, to hiring and promoting based on ethnicity and gender. So if ten people applied and tested for a captains position and the four highest scoring applicants were white guys, they'd promote number 5.

[-] Boinkage@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Silence brand

[-] ellypony@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

what kind of cartoon world are we living in that i’m actually on the side of a corporation for once

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

A cartoon where a corporation is doing the absolute bare minimum to fight racism.

[-] TimboSlice@discuss.online 1 points 3 weeks ago

Now lemmy is flooding me with corporate propaganda? Good on the company for doing the right thing, but when I see this same headline in multiple communities on here, it reminds me of reddit.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Is it propaganda, though? How about we celebrate the few nice things going for us and just enjoy it for a second. We should be praising this regardless of our ideals because the world is very far from ideal.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah, it probably is propaganda. Costco has been doing some cartoonishly shitty union busting recently for which they received a ton of backlash. Now, suddenly, we're all supposed to be on their side because they said "DEI is good"? IDK, it might just be me, but that rings a bit hollow from a company that has a long (and very recent) history of doing shit like "changing the locks on union bulletin boards so the reps can't put up any notices".

[-] TCB13@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

DEI policies are the exact opposite of "rooted in respect"

[-] Forbo@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Embarrassingskidmark@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Why does diversity need to be improved to include the already very privileged? Ignorant moron.

[-] Brekky@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

Who are these shareholders?? Name and shame

[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

The shareholder is a group called "National Center for Public Policy Research", a far right organization.

[-] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 weeks ago
[-] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 1 points 3 weeks ago

Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. Programs, most often hiring, promoting those values

[-] Embarrassingskidmark@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

DEI isn't inclusive though, it's inherently exclusive. It should be means tested so it benefits those who really need it.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Embarrassingskidmark@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Thanks. It's a shame you weren't able to come up with something more creative for a username otherwise I'd complement you too.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I've been Rizz for long time.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

DEI is about improving diversity and preventing racial bias in the hiring process (which very much exists because people are people). It's not about helping poor people.

[-] Embarrassingskidmark@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Perhaps it should be.

[-] Embarrassingskidmark@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

In the UK it's called positive discrimination, because it's just that. Discrimination, you bigot.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's about identifying and undoing existing discrimination. If you find no existing discrimination, then you don't have to do anything.

You seem very emotional on the topic. Have you convinced yourself that you lost a job because of DEI? I hate to break it to you, you lost that job because of you. No one is hiring quotas.

[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Regardless of its positive benefits, don't kid yourself. Companies implement DEI because it keeps their workspace more fluid and open to staff turnovers, specially from international hires. Not only will more hires go into a company they see won't have racial barriers for progression, but companies are less likely to have close-knit groups of locals unionizing to deal with when they make sure they aren't the sort of groups that typically interconnect socially. The change in the job dynamic also feeds into the growth of the alt-right and the clashing of the social bubbles of those comprised by locals versus those comprised by immigrants. Take the Netherlands, a DEI success story with a population that is veering far to the right.

DEI is good, but CEOs couldn't care less. It's good to keep this in mind when answering questions like "Are the jobs AI is automating by the dozen adding diversity, or are they going to enable companies to become more regressive to the whims and fancies of their CEOs?"

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

companies are less likely to have close-knit groups of locals unionizing to deal with when they make sure they aren't the sort of groups that typically interconnect socially. The change in the job dynamic also feeds into the growth of the alt-right and the clashing of the social bubbles of those comprised by locals versus those comprised by immigrants.

Yeah, it's kind of the elephant in the room. After working in a team with overwhelming number of immigrants, I kind of see why many locals would feel alienated. Never mind bemoaning about "diluting culture" (what culture doesn't evolve?), but job dynamics as you say changes for the worse. Many immigrants I know don't really question the low pay in spite of the rising inflation. Many want to even work seven days straight if they could. It's because many immigrants typically come from hierarchical, conservative and collectivist culture, where social validation and approval from seniors is more valued. This causes employers and government not to feel pressure to increase wages. This causes to weaken the power of unions.

Also, not all countries have affirmative action/DEI policies. Where I live, it's not mandatory but it's good practice for most companies to do so to avoid litigation and bad PR. However, the company I worked don't actively pursue it and my former line manager, a Somali, overwhelmingly hire other Somalis. Another team has a Romanian team leader but also seem to favour fellow Romanian for job positions. I don't believe this is done intentionally, but the thing is not all countries have the same education and culture, and my Somali and Romanian managers probably would not have been taught about unconscious biases.

That being said, it's more important that there is mutual understanding and similar mindset than where the person is from. An Egyptian born and raised in US would likely agree with local citizens than with fresh off the boat immigrants.

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