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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 39 points 20 hours ago

My house burnt down! boohoo

Oh damn that sucks, what are you going to do?

I have to move into house #12! boohoo

[-] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 9 points 16 hours ago

Crying over your charcoal mansion and then kicking a family out of the apartment complex you own because they were 2 days late on rent.

[-] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 34 points 20 hours ago
[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 36 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

James Woods: NO CEASEFIRE!

Fire: does not cease

James Woods: wojak-nooo

[-] ColonelKataffy@hexbear.net 17 points 19 hours ago

they got this all wrong. the card is supposed to say,

"No, Cease fire!"

[-] CommCat@hexbear.net 31 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

When ever Marxists tell me that these wealthy celebrities (actors, athletes etc.) are working class because they are selling their labour, I remind them that their obscene wealth means they own multiple properties (that they rent out, like Killer Mike and Dave Chapelle), businesses and investments.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 36 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

class is not a bright-line category, what matters is the dominant aspect of his relationship to ~~capital~~ the means of production, which is pretty clearly his investments and not his acting compensation. he could stop acting right now

Marxism is dialectic, it rejects absolute pure categories. Things sort of exist on a spectrum but sort of don't. The way Marxists use categories is to understand that everything is connected to each other through a series of quantifiable interconnected steps, but that something is always dominant, and this dominant aspect is what determines the overall quality of the thing in question.

If you're trying to shove everything into a pure category of absolutely worker, absolutely capitalist, then this is just a useless endeavor. When we talk of "worker" or "capitalist," we don't mean it as if these are pure categories, where a worker can't ever own capital, or that a capitalist can't ever do labor. They may do these things, they may exist somewhere in between. But clearly at some point, certain characteristics become dominant over others. Clearly Jeff Bezos's class interests are not the same as a minimum wage worker, as the latter likely has next to no capital while the former has far more capital than he could ever, by his own labor, afford.

There is no reason to try and shove this person you're describing into a specific absolute box. If they're a salaried worker who runs some very small business / self-employment on the side as supplemental income, you could just say they're a worker with petty bourgeois characteristics. You don't have to say they're absolutely "petty bourgeois" or a "worker". You can just describe that they have characteristics of multiple categories. No reason you cannot do this.

—by zhenli真理

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 5 points 16 hours ago

he could stop acting right now

someone find the lathe

But seriously, videodrome is the only thing worth watching that he's heavily featured in

[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 3 points 12 hours ago

he was also the fed prick in GTA:SA

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 7 points 19 hours ago

He is a landlord that also does a real job

[-] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 14 points 18 hours ago

My understanding of class is it's defined by your relationship to capital. A shareholder or landlord could do labour, but that doesn't make them working class

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 12 points 20 hours ago

It's just buying your way into the owning class. Anyone can do it if they obtain obscene amounts of wealth.

[-] spectre@hexbear.net 10 points 19 hours ago

You can it with even a moderate level of wealth

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 1 points 16 hours ago

I wouldn't say they're working class, but they're not ruling elites, at least not all of them have businesses.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

They're not necessarily haute bourgeois but they're likely best viewed as petit bourgeois at best.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 3 points 18 hours ago

Shit, please don’t come back to RI, we got enough problems

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