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[-] Cammy@hexbear.net 79 points 1 year ago

Totally unrelated, but here's a De Beers X-ray technician making sure a miner isn't stealing diamonds.

[-] someone@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

I wonder how many miners died of cancer induced by repeated x-ray screenings.

[-] aebletrae@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

How often were they allowed to leave?

[-] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 75 points 1 year ago

Good. Fuck blood diamonds, synthetic are superior in every way

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 74 points 1 year ago

I will never forget when lab grown diamonds debuted and they were perfect. Pure carbon. And the diamond companies that had spent decades using purity as a marketing/pricing argument whirled around and claimed that "real diamonds" were still valuable because of the imperfections and impurities.

Just a total 180⁰

[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago

Good

No more blood diamonds, get the kids out of the mines and put the mining company shareholders down there, permanently

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

But at what cost???

"A very reasonable one actually" xigma-male

[-] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

noooo not my shiny rocks!! boohoo i need my rocks made with extreme human suffering and child labour, not in a lab!!! boohoo

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

if you vpn into china you can see them selling really high quality legit lab made diamonds for like 20-50 usd. you can try to ship them here but customs tries to make it impossible, so you basically just have to visit china to get them

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

what about uncut lab made diamonds? I'm not in the USA and shipping from China goes smoothly 100% of the time for me, so I wonder if that's a good avenue

[-] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

Treatlerites malding. Get fucked bozos

[-] JustSo@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

Is China to blame?

No that would be De Beers Group (the premier diamond cartel in the world) which has a long running history of purchasing all the valuable gems it can get its hands on and funding insane amounts on advertising both over and subliminal.

South African–British corporation that specializes in the diamond industry, including mining, exploitation, retail, inscription, grading, trading and industrial diamond manufacturing.[3] The company is active in open-pit, underground, large-scale alluvial and coastal mining. It operates in 35 countries with mining taking place in Botswana, Namibia, South Africa, and Canada. It also has an artisanal mining business, Gemfair, which operates in Sierra Leone.

While this cartel has historically controlled the market especially in luxury goods related diamonds, their investments and colonial efforts have kept them a major player in the world diamond market.

From its inception in 1888 until the start of the 21st century, De Beers controlled 80% to 85% of rough diamond distribution and was considered a monopoly.[4] By 2000, the company's control of the world diamond supply decreased to 63%.[5]

Diamond prices have been going down, I'm sure for a variety of material reasons that better educated comrades could comment on. That China may now be entering the industry, with its general focus on building a parallel power structure to incorporate and protect the global south AND its own VAST TRACTS OF LAND which it is still exploring for mineral exploitation, should be no surprise. Diamond resource control for industry is a necessary front to wage competition over.

Artificial diamonds are another factor, again a more knowledgeable comrade would be able to fill in the way this has shifted industrial diamond demand, the areas where you don't need BIG GEM to == BIG VALUE, think their application in cutting tools etc etc. But also artificial diamonds encroach on the traditional diamond cartel's territory. They've mounted a fairly weak counter-messaging effort to try and tell people that real diamonds are inherently more valuable (this is arguably "true" I suppose, a lot more labor, blood, lives and slavery went into those things. But do you want to carry that misery on your finger? Dangling from your ears?)

I haven't read the article. I don't need to. I don't know if they're digging them up, I don't know if they're cooking them in a lab, if they've bought out "illegal" mines on the African continent (getting pretty far out there, just acknowledging the limits of my knowledge, in any case Xi, Liberate the Diamond Slaves) both probably, but I do know one thing-

I know China is not "to blame" for a diamond price crash. This is what happens when cartels lose control. Assuming there even is a "crash," in any material sense, (its fucking diamonds for fuck sake) as with the housing crisis, the conditions for its catastrophic failure are to be blamed on the ruling capitalist class and the political systems that failed to reign them in before things reached point where the contradictions became untenable and something had to break for the house of cards to collapse.

tl;dr:

Diamonds have never been rare. Diamond production used to be a lot more labor intensive and its history and current state is still steeped in Actually Existing Slavery and Colonialism. The supply of diamonds has been rare due to overt cartel behavior fully sanctioned by the west since the late 1800s.

Now, the material conditions have changed and diamonds are entering the market from sources the cartel cannot control. This artificial supply limit is dropping and so the demand price is going lower. Ironically, with China doing the heavy lifting here, it's likely a situation in which this new supply of diamonds is extracted through far less barbarity, cost of human life and general misery.

Diamonds are really cool rocks. But they're not rare.

Obligatory Kanye West - Diamonds from Sierra Leone I believe the movie this featured in was a product of a major cultural shift in how the west understood the human cost of the diamond trade. Demand for luxury diamonds has dropped significantly. It was hallmark card bullshit but with shiny stones. FUCK THAT. I'd rather rock a platinum tooth than a diamond on my finger. Just sayin.

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[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago
[-] Trilobite@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago

Good I would never buy worthless blood diamonds fuck the diamond hoarders I hope they lose everything and are sued out of existence

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

but at what cost to our beloved small business diamond cartels and family-owned conflict diamond brokerages?

[-] MechaLenin@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

dracula-flow My diamonds no longer come from the most horrific situation imaginable

[-] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

A diamond without blood is like an angel without wings. gangster-spongebob

[-] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

chinese youth being so savvy to realize that diamond rings are a nice symbol but there is no established tradition that it must be "real" or super expensive and just choosing to buy affordable ones that are ethically manufactured is absolutely based af

[-] Biggay@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

synthetic diamonds are getting mentioned a lot but also demand for other gemstones are also changing, if you want a more sparkly stone i forget if its moissanite or morganite but it refracts better than diamond while being nearly as hard.

[-] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

moissanite is the one that spits out rainbows and shit way better than diamonds it is absolutely a better gemstone

[-] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Rich fucks crying about "luxury" commodities becoming more affordable part 2: electric boogaloo.

[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago
[-] dumbass@leminal.space 11 points 1 year ago

Came here to say the same thing, feels good not being blamed for once.

[-] Ath3ro@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

idk about this one, does this mean i have to stop making fun of people for having diamonds that people were paid a good wage to make vs my vastly superior diamonds that only majorly contributed to the exploitation of a nation, its resources and its people? won’t someone think of the elitists?!?!

[-] Zementid@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

Only if sweet sweet slave blood sticks to luxury products they are truly luxurious. Half of those asshats would wear human leather if it would be legal.

[-] Ath3ro@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

you’re not wrong, they used to stuff cushions with slaves hair and used slaves skin to upholster them

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Did the bubble with the fantasy prices finally burst?

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago
[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Diamonds Are For Cheap

xigma-male

[-] someone@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

🎶 Diamonds are four dollarrrrs! 🎶

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