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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 33 minutes ago* (last edited 32 minutes ago)

Everyone moving to The Little Red Book (or "RedNote") is creating some very funny interactions, lmao. Super cute honestly

[-] Xatolos@reddthat.com 14 points 3 hours ago

So let me get this straight....

The Tiktok ban, that was first proposed in Jan 2020, and was banned from government devices in Dec 2022, was getting first drafts for laws banned in Dec 2022, another law was proposed to block in nationwide in Jan 2023, was further restricted in March of 2023, and was signed into law to banned Tiktok nation wide on April 2023 (to be completely removed by Jan 2025) is solely being done to censor information about a conflict that started in Oct 2023...

Yeah, check outs. 👍

[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

The real reason is the American Oligarchs don't like foreign competition to their data collection.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 hours ago

The second someone starts showing American war crimes they are a security risk. But Americans somehow still believe in free speech.

[-] jimmy90@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago

so is tiktok the main place for Palestinian content these days? it seems to have chilled out everywhere else now the election is over

[-] psyklax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 95 points 18 hours ago

This is the real reason for the ban.

"National security" just translates to "public opinion of the war(s)"

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

And yet they were trying to ban it years before any of that happened...

[-] m532@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 48 minutes ago

There are boatloads of wars usa tries to hide all the time

[-] Trilobite@lemm.ee 36 points 17 hours ago

I guess I am going to give my kids access to my VPN I don't trust the government at all any more

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 9 points 11 hours ago

You should absolutely have your kids use a VPN.

[-] Trilobite@lemm.ee 5 points 10 hours ago

Yeah I have it set up on the home network I just never set it up on their cells

[-] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 40 points 18 hours ago

Mitt Romney might just be the only member of the GOP with at least a single honest bone in his body.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 51 points 16 hours ago

So that's who the democrats will run in 2028

[-] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 18 points 15 hours ago

Irritatingly plausible. I'm going to be stoked if we get another election at all though.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 7 points 9 hours ago

We will. A free and fair one, though? Outlook not so good.

[-] MidWestKhagan@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 9 hours ago

What’s the point of elections when it’s always already pre bought? AIPAC already bought everyone who would run for election; however, something happened on twitter and Trump and his goons are really upset at israel now.

[-] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago

Well we'll have an actual primary if there's an election so if he gets through a democratic primary, that's on democrat voters. I also don't think he wants to run.

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

very funny to see the results of the last few dem primaries and still think that voters choose who the candidate will be

[-] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 31 minutes ago)

Voters not seeing that they're getting played is its own problem. DNC can push whoever, up to voters to decide whether to follow or push back.

The RNC tried to push Jeb or Rubio in 2016, Republicans put in Trump instead.

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 37 points 18 hours ago
[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 16 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, its just nice when they're honest about it.

US republicans will be like: "8 men should own this country and everyone else can die in the gutter". US democrats will be like: "We need to reframe the conversation about the lived experiences of so many of our constituents, and reach solutions that include these realities [policies not different from those above]".

[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 5 points 12 hours ago

Democrats are evil fucks too. But not evil enough that I’m going to give Mitt Romney any credit.

[-] Grapho@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 hours ago

They're evil enough. If complete support for yet another genocide isn't "evil enough" I wonder what might do it.

[-] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 15 hours ago

The least evil fuck is still an evil fuck.

[-] beek@beehaw.org 13 points 18 hours ago

This isn’t a statement rooted in honesty or morality. This is saying the quiet part out loud.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 16 hours ago

Palestinians getting to broadcast the horrors visited upon them by zionists is bad. /s

[-] CentauriBeau@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

What happened to us (Americans)? We used to look down on Soviet propaganda and book burning; congratulating ourselves on our free speech. Now we’re burning books and outlawing news sources that don’t abide by the official propaganda. It’s sickening.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

The US has always had propaganda and book burning, it's just really good at projection. Hell, even D&D was attacked for being "satanic."

[-] yetiftw@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

did you miss the red scare? it's always been this way

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 hours ago

Lol, classic American. Sees Americans doing bad things in America in a way that America has always done: "what are we, a bunch of Russians!"

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 13 points 11 hours ago

Because our empire is collapsing

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Entropy will not be denied.

Rome always falls to the corruption of its elite run amuck.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Don't forget the lead poisoning. Something else America has in common with the Romans.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago

You guys are actively collapsing it.

[-] shawn1122@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

You're moving out of golden age and into the 'find out' stage.

[-] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 15 hours ago

I’m British, we recently had Brexit. It will be “we have book burning but it’s different to that book burning”, or something like that anyway.

[-] Majorllama@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

Yes because nobody is talking about the Palestine/Israel situation on any other social media platforms. /s

The more likely reason is that it's a social media company that the government currently has zero control over. Being owned by a (Taiwanese?) company the US can't ask them to track data and the CIA/FBI can't fill it with propaganda or whatever else they want.

[-] MidWestKhagan@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 9 hours ago

I maybe see it on threads but nothing on YouTube shorts. Like nothing whatsoever, reels is the only other place I see them. If you look at what has been popular especially what was popular in tags in December 2023, Free Palestine tags got hundreds of millions of views and likes while pro israeli tag got 2.5m. The Palestinian genocide js 100% why they’re banning it.

[-] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 17 hours ago

Yes because nobody is talking about the Palestine/Israel situation on any other social media platforms. /s

But are they?

I know they are on Fediverse sites, but is it really being discussed on Twitter and Facebook?

[-] Majorllama@lemmy.world 10 points 16 hours ago

Reddit, twitter, Facebook, Twitch, YouTube, tiktok and now Lemmy. I can't think of a single social media site I've used in the last year that didn't have people talking about Palestine in one way or another.

It's why I doubt the claim that the US government is specifically trying to ban tiktok because of the Palestine/Israel situation. They wanted TikTok gone before the October 7th 2023 attack.

I believe it's more likely a nation security issue being owned by a Chinese company than anything to do with Palestine whatsoever.

[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 6 points 13 hours ago

This just shows that you haven't been paying attention. Pro-palestine content is moderated off those platforms as "anti-semitic". Raise your hand below if reddit has banned you for being anti-zionist.

[-] Limonene@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

The /s at the end means he was being sarcastic.

But truthfully, there are some places (such as isolated bubbles on Facebook, I would expect) where people honestly believe that opposition to Israel is based on antisemitism, being unaware of the genocide.

[-] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 16 hours ago

The /s at the end means he was being sarcastic.

Right, which leads me to believe that they are implying that people are talking about the Palestine / Israel situation on other platforms.

I don't go on FB often, but when I do I never see anything on there about Israel. I never go on Twitter, but from what I've heard any mention of genocide is met with accusations of antisemitism and the conversation is shut down.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 2 points 12 hours ago

Real 'chicken or egg' vibes with that one

[-] Limonene@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

It's based in China, not Taiwan. (They are different countries, IMO.)

[-] Majorllama@lemmy.world -2 points 16 hours ago

My apologies, I got the Asian countries all jumbled up in my head. The CEO of TikTok is from Singapore, but the parent company of TikTok (ByteDance) is Chinese.

So throw in a layer of national security concerns and it makes far more logical sense why they want to have China sell the US side of TikTok to an American owned company.

I still don't think the Palestine situation has much of anything to do with what's going on with the US governments distain for TikTok. They didn't like it way before the Israel/Palestine situation kicked off again.

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