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[-] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 93 points 2 months ago

Shortages because these jobs pay shit money to put up with a lot of bs.

[-] horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yes, because wages are being suppressed by CEOs. Statistically if you are in the USA you've got a roughly 30% chance to earn a million dollars in your lifetime. You cannot physically earn a billion dollars. At the dollar's current rate. You don't have enough lifetimes. You're more likely to win the powerball 4 times in a row than have a trillion dollars.

[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 86 points 2 months ago

If all the pilots, teachers, and nurses disappeared overnight there would be mayhem. If all the CEOs disappeared overnight literally nothing would change. How about we replace the actual pointless jobs with AI like the CEOs that pretty much do nothing by comparison.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 12 points 2 months ago

While it's probably the single easiest job to offload onto AI we will need actual humans to take the fall for the boards decisions for the foreseeable future.

"We deleted the software responsible for our most recent ecological disaster" doesn't have the same weight as firing an actual person.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

It's a lot cheaper than the golden parachutes.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 5 points 2 months ago

don't get me wrong, the picosecond they can they will. it's just not feasible while the public requires a scapegoat or the people actually responsible might need to avoid West 54th.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 7 points 2 months ago

That just creates a new job! I can be the "fire guy!"

People can employ me just to fire me when the AI fucks up. Lol

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

"We fired the guy responsible for our most recent ecological disaster" doesn't have the same weight as an actual punishment

The only thought that went through my mind reading the last bit. Is there really that much difference between firing a CEO and deleting an AI? Deleting the AI would save us the cost of the golden parachute....

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[-] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 2 months ago

Education and health care are two places where the administration has expanded much, much faster than either the "customer base" or the people doing the real work. Which is quite odd. There should be economies of scale at work; you don't need twice as many administrators to handle twice as many workers or customers. Should be a lot less, like 1.2x or 1.5x. However, the actual numbers have gone the opposite way, like 5x the admin staff for 2x the workers and customers.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

I've been saying this since day one... Make the AI's replace these fucking useless pieces of shit. Replace MOST managers, in fact, as well.

[-] sailormoon@lemmy.world 74 points 2 months ago

I've been screaming this for years: THERE IS NO NURSING SHORTAGE! There is a shortage of nurses willing to deal with the shitty conditions they push on us! It's not healthy for us or the patients!!!

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

To be pedantic, there are a shortage of nurses in hospitals, due to manufactured conditions.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 11 points 2 months ago

Yes. There are plenty of people willing to do the job, including all the nasty shit they deal with, but then they see the pay and it's simply a better decision to push papers around instead.

The willing to do the job is also being used against the nurses. Strikes are very difficult for them, because they have a real responsibility and it is extremely hard to stop caring for the patients.

[-] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

It's not the pay that's driving them away, it's the understaffing.

The pay (most places) is fine, if they just added 30% more staff. The fact that they need to work 12 hour shifts with zero breaks, and the only time they can sit is when they need to get on a computer to file paperwork is awful.

They have plenty of money to hire admins and CEOs, but no money to properly staff the nurses, techs, and doctors.

Hire enough nurses to COMFORTABLY work the shifts, then you won't have them quitting constantly, then you won't have understanding.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

The strike should take the form of continuing patient care, but refusing to do any paperwork or anything else required for patient billing.

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[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago

I would love to be a teacher. I have a teaching license in 2 languages and IT and I can't teach because I have bills to pay. :(

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

That's so sad. My sister-in-law is a high school teacher and she still bartends at least two nights a week to make enough money to live.

On a nicer note, maybe some of your co-workers would be interested in learning a second language? Maybe you could just make it part of the work day sometimes?

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 51 points 2 months ago

And now the insurance industry has a shortage of money, to pay out on insurance claims. Even though everyone paid all of their money. Every month. Every month for their health insurance. And every month for their home owners insurance. And then when it comes time to pay 🤷 🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷 where is the money? Better start increasing everyone else’s monthly rates.

[-] Viri4thus@feddit.org 42 points 2 months ago

How about a manufactured CEO shortage, the French way? 🤔

[-] grue@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago

The only shortage is a wage shortage.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 32 points 2 months ago

Honestly, we should have more CEOs too. They shouldn't be paid as much, but we definitely don't want fewer people running more companies.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

That raises the question of how those companies ought to be run. Maybe we don't need CEOs at all?

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 9 points 2 months ago

I think it's an important role. It's just over paid.

[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Couldn't it be more like a parliament instead of a king?

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 6 points 2 months ago

Big companies already have elected boards. Someone has to be the secretary.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Big companies already have elected boards.

Big boards of shareholders consisting of the CEOs of other companies. Its how you get industry cartelization.

Why do CEOs reciprocally sit on each other's boards?

The reciprocal interlocking of chief executive officers is a non-trivial phenomenon: among large companies in 1991, about one company in seven was in a relationship whereby the CEO of one company sat on a second company's board and the second company's CEO sat on the first company's board. We develop hypotheses to distinguish whether this practice furthers the interests of shareholders or the private interests of the CEOs. Using a sample of large companies, we employ a probit model to test these hypotheses. Our empirical findings are that these reciprocal CEO interlocks primarily benefit the CEOs rather than their shareholders.

Very often, a CEO will receive stock in-lieu of compensation. This makes them a major shareholder of their existing firm. Firms will also use stock in-lieu of payment when negotiating contracts between firms, particularly in M&A and other consolidation agreements.

Consequently, you'll have a guy like Michael Dell, whose primary wealth comes not from owning shares in Dell Computers but in Broadcom Semiconductor Company. This came about because he received 22M shares from Broadcom in exchange for his controlling interest in VMWare, a company he obtained by trading his Dell stock to the original owners.

He sits on Broadcom's board and the former CEO of VMWare sits on his board. When Broadcom skyrocketed in valuation (currently in the $1T range) during the Crypto/AI induced chip shortage, Dell's net worth skyrocketed with it.

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[-] ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol 2 points 2 months ago

My brother who is now deceased as of a few days ago said something similar. AI should be replacing the CEOs lol

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[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 months ago

I've been told there would be a pilot shortage since I was in high school. I started flight school in 2005 and was teaching flight school by 2010. I've still never seen anything I would describe as an "opportunity" in the aviation industry.

[-] robocall@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

I know someone that has all the hours, proper credentials to be a pilot, he has credentials to fly 737s and A320s, and he has never failed a test. He applied to over 70 airlines (major, regional, corporate, anything in the US) he had people in the industry review his resume. He can't get hired. He is a flight instructor and operates tourist flights but wants to fly larger planes. If there is a pilot shortage, why is no one willing to hire him?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

That would be because they're lying. Not the guy in the meme. Companies are constantly saying they're short of workers without actually hiring more. There's several reasons for it, but mostly it's to influence regulation on training and safety standards. In teachers it's a political preference for private schools at the expense of the normal school system.

We produce enough nurses, pilots, and teachers. But the shortage myth justifies running skeleton crews, treating them badly, and hand waives high turnover.

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[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

If everyone knew just how little CEOs actually do day-to-day for their millions of dollars, you'd be storming the capital.

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[-] T156@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Just look at what happened during COVID.

All the jobs marked as "essential" back then would probably be a solid proportion of the grease of society. People would riot if they suddenly stopped existing.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

well unfortunately these shortages do not generally affect billionaires (not directly atleast).

[-] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

There is a fix for this and it just takes us rallying together a little bit in a video game character fashion.

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[-] sirico@feddit.uk 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Post-covid proof people don't appreciate the true backbone. Bangs more pans

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We actually DO have a shortage of overpaid CEOs, as much of the entrepreneurial web of small businesses and local special interests have been bought out or bankrupted by corporate expansion and conglomeration.

The days of petite bourgeois middling millionairehood are coming to a close. The fat dodos trundling around Middle America with their second homes and their Sea-Do outlets and their small patch of land dedicated to not growing alfalfa have all been clubbed and devoured. You're either at the top of the food chain or you're someone else's dinner.

[-] minorkeys@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Civilization collaaaaapse.

Not yet we don't 🔫

[-] Statick@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you fire every CEO at a company. Business will continue as usual.

If you fire every insert basically any other role here, you will more than likely have a problem.

That should tell anyone all they need to know about the "value" CEOs bring.

Disclaimer, I'm talking about large corporations.

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