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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/196@lemmy.blahaj.zone

edit: As I'm seeing a lot of worry about the impact this will/could have on the community, please be assured we have the same mod team, and will be holding the community to the same standards. the same things that were always allowed will continue to be allowed and the same things that got things removed before will continue to get things removed before. Lemmy.world admins have agreed to allow us to run our community on our terms.
It is my pleasure to announce that effective immediately, we are transferring our community to Lemmy.world! This has been a few months in the making, so my entire mod team is already on board.
FAQ:
Why?
That's a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada's excellent team of admins. We are on good terms with Ada and her team, and have gotten her consent to do this. In addition to this, we have had ongoing issues with federation and moderation that has caused a subpar experience for many people on other instances.
How does this work?
Currently, as there is not an easy way to transfer an entire community (trust me, we checked), we are locking the community as mod-only, and moving our focus to the 196 on lemmy.world. For you guys, functionally nothing has changed.
What about the posts?
Well, we tried to transfer them, but there was no real way to do so without absolutely destroying lemmy.world's federation. For this reason, we are simply archiving this community as mod-only. Everything is staying up, you just won't be able to post new content. Comments are still enabled, so we will continue to check our modlogs for some time after the transfer has settled.
As for the posts on lemmy.world's 196, we're leaving those up too. From this point onwards, all posts made to that community are beholden to the rules you are all used to, but anything pre-existing is getting grandfathered in.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE PUT THEM IN THE COMMENTS OF THIS POST, AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM.
Once again, here's the link to our new apartment of awesome. (universal: !196@lemmy.world)

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[-] poplargrove@lemmy.world 65 points 3 days ago

I want to add my voice to the others asking for tranfering to a new mod team. You don't have to kill the community, let people who want it on blahaj.zone keep using it. The worst that can happen is the quality of posts being lower.

[-] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 3 days ago

Exactly. Not letting the community have a say in what happens to the community is a dick move.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 days ago

Cringe.

Make your own instance

[-] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 157 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I strongly disagree with this decision and the reasoning behind it. Blahaj is, in my opinion, the best place for this community specifically because of the strong moderation and policies of Ada and other admins here.

Lemmy.world is also the worst instance I can think of outside of the big three tankie instances. It contributes further to the centralization of Lemmy as a whole (since 196 has been one of the most active communities on the entire platform). In my opinion, the .world crowd's liberal and pro-colonialist/capitalist tendencies are a terrible fit for this community.

I'd have rather seen Blahaj defederate from .world than 196 move there, even if it meant less content and engagement. At least the cultural values of the community wouldn't have been compromised.

[-] Sop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 3 days ago

Weren’t .world admins also banning references to jury nullification and jokes about Luigi Mangioni killing more CEO’s?

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 days ago

Hard agree, 100%. If they want to jump ship, fine, but scorched earthing the old 196 is bullshit.

So I made !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone

We'll see how it goes!

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[-] seliaste@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Please don't. Like really, or make your own new community. It being on blahaj zone is good

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[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 49 points 3 days ago

Who defederates from blåhaj? Why? As far as I can see it's just a queer instance only bigots would defederate.

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[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 48 points 3 days ago

The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada's excellent team of admins

Can you expand on this? It's not really clear to me why you're making this move.

[-] LuckingFurker@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 3 days ago

Basically it's "vibes", that's the only explanation the 196 mods intend to give us

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[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 41 points 3 days ago

What are your thoughts on the Beehaw and any other instances' users who are going to be forceably left behind by this change?

[-] Cornflake@pawb.social 137 points 3 days ago

To be honest, I think a big part of the 196 identity is that it comes from blahaj. Maybe the move will prove me wrong, but I can't imagine the energy will be the same.

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[-] hmmm@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 days ago
[-] PugEnjoyer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 87 points 3 days ago

A move that has been months in the making but only now is getting announced? Has it been announced previously and I missed it or something? I get the motivation for the move, but this feels like the kind of decision that the users of the 196 should have gotten more of a chance to at least give feedback on what other instance 196 should be migrating to.

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[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

Bad move :(

[-] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 102 points 3 days ago

For the love of god, leave this community here and just create a new mod team instead. This community being on Blåhaj specifically is a big plus for a lot of us

[-] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 61 points 3 days ago

How about no?

I agree with most others that this is a huge mistake, if only for moving to .world. Another larger community being on that instance sounds like a bad idea for the lemmy ecosystem, even if you wanted to move from blahaj.zone. I will continue to post and browse on 196, but if I start to feel unwelcome there, I will make it known.

The problem is that you're creating more work for yourself, even if you're as on top of moderation as you were here. If you get the additional reach that you're hoping for, you'll have to work much quicker at removing shit content than you did here. Now that 196 isn't on the openly queer instance, more bigots will feel like they can interact. This could lead to the community becoming less accepting in the long run, as queer people feel less safe and welcomed.

I have thick skin and often run towards conflicts other people won't, but I know that many users here aren't like me. If I start to feel it weighing on me, be confident that things have gone too far for most people on this instance.

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[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 125 points 3 days ago

I'm gonna be honest, my first response to reading this headline & image, as well as the small snippet of the body visible from my app's home page, was "huh, bit early for an April Fool's Day joke". It would have been surprising enough if the move has been anywhere, but LW is the last non-tankie instance I would have expected, given the modding/admin drama they've been through recently.

I'm guessing LW was chosen because there's a pre-existing (if inactive) community there already?

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[-] araneae@beehaw.org 107 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Neutral observation: World's userbase is incompatible with the attitudes and queer acceptance of nearly any community that originates from a place like Blahaj. Your comment sections will go to directly to shit. You will constantly be embattled by .world bigots. Sea-lioning and whataboutism will be common and things you never imagined would be controversial will be. Given the incoming administration I would stick to spaces carved out for the culture you want to see on a "r/196-like" board.

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[-] Sergio@slrpnk.net 61 points 3 days ago

OK, I think I see where you're coming from. But lemmy.world already has several meme, shitpost, and microblog repost communities. Why does lemmy.world need c/196? Up til now the fact that it was on blahaj.zone was what made it stand out.

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[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 30 points 3 days ago

Now where am I supposed to post this Iruleny?

Also waiting for the downvotes to reach 196.

[-] puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 3 days ago

:(

.world is already way too centralized, and way less friendly. downhill we go I guess.

[-] Toes@ani.social 28 points 3 days ago
[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 46 points 3 days ago

Time to make /196part two on Blahaj I guess.

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[-] regdog@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago

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