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It's... odd (lemmy.world)

Meanwhile my lonely ass been sitting over here absolutely loathing Fallout: New Vegas since its release. I did not like that game. I probably would today if I got over myself and tried playing it again.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I liked NV way more than FO3 because it felt like the same world as FO1 and 2, while 3 felt like an imposter wearing their skin.

It also is the most RPG-like of all the 3D fallout games. Obsidian actually knows how to make an RPG. And having a couple of the people who made FO1 and 2 was a big help. To this day, Old World Blues has some of the best dialogue in a video game.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

For anyone considering playing or replaying New Vegas, I cannot reccomend the Viva New Vegas modlist enough.

It's unfortunately not just some "one click setup". There is a Wabbajack installer, but there are some small steps you still need to do manually too.

That said, it is by far the best and most comprehensive "vanilla plus" modpack I have ever used. I'm a modding addict; I don't say that lightly. It doesn't change core game mechanics, story, or anything the makes New Vegas what it is.

It polishes what's there, upgrading visuals in a consistent manner that blends perfectly with the original content. It fixes countless longstanding bugs, performance issues, and crashes (only two crashes in ~40 hours on a setup that was modded even further past what the pack includes).

It polishes New Vegas to what it should have been on release (if Bethesda didn't force Obsidian to rush it out the door early), then brings it as close to the quality of a modern release as possible through modding.


If you want to replay Fallout 3, a lot of people prefer playing it in the New Vegas engine using the Tale of Two Wastelands mod. The version of Viva New Vegas that covers that and includes mods for the Fallout 3 content is "The Best of Times".

It appears to be up to the same quality as VNV standalone, but I haven't used it myself yet.

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

I'm probably going to get hate for this, but do you know if any mods that allow the game to work in Windows 11? None of the fan patches I could find in the Nexus actually work, even if they claim they are for Win11 users. The game still crashes constantly. I'm seriously considering digging my old gaming PC out of storage just so I can play NV one last time.

How's the game in Linux? Haven't tried it there yet cause it barely runs in Win7, an OS it was designed for (but at least it runs), so I didn't even try it in Linux cause I'm doubtful it'll work any better than it does in 11.

[-] Drathro@dormi.zone 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

In my experience, the crashing is usually from some directX rendering compatibility issues with the windows 11 driver and display stack. Try using DXVK (which is what steam proton uses on Linux) to convert the driver stack into something vulkan compliant. For me, personally, it SIGNIFICANTLY reduced crashes even in windows 10. I'm rocking an AMD GPU though so my vulkan performance is notably more stable than many Nvidia equivalents. To use DXVK you just download the zip file from the GitHub releases page and drop it (extracted, 32 bit dll's specifically) into the folder with the game binaries (similar to old dinput override mods). Then launch the game like normal and it SHOULD "just work".

[-] affiliate@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

do you have the steam version or gog? i played the steam version on windows 11 last year and had no more problems than usual. also if you’re using the steam version, you might have to make sure it’s not installed within Program Files or Program Files (x86). those install locations can cause problems with mods.

you might also benefit from installing the 4gb patch in addition to IStewieAI’s engine tweaks. a lot of the mods in the first few sections of the viva new vegas guide are pretty much essential in order to play the game with minimal bugs and crashes. also some of the “crash fixing” mods cause problems in windows 10 and 11.

hopefully one of the above things works. i had to find a lot of those things out the hard way, it can be a pretty finicky game. really fun though.

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

GoG, but I really appreciate you trying to help. I already tried the 4GB patch and I don't remember if I tried IStewieAI because it's been over a year since I last tried running the game, and I have ADHD. I'll look into that and the rest. Thanks.

[-] andrew_s@piefed.social 53 points 17 hours ago

I read that tweet as something that wasn't really about Fallout: New Vegas, and more as something using it as a vehicle for a joke (about adult women being nostalgic for the games they played as teenage boys).

[-] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 9 hours ago

Yeah somehow almost everyone is missing the joke? 😭

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

Oh we all got it, but our reaction was to relate warmly.

[-] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

The joke is partly that lots of trans women in particular enjoyed this game in particular, so plenty of people who noticed the switcheroo in the tweet will still see it as an opportunity to talk about the game rather than seeing the game as something irrelevant that could be swapped out for another.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

But why trans women?

[-] janus2@lemmy.zip 21 points 16 hours ago

i had a hearty queer chuckle

[-] heavy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago

I'm sure you could swap it out for other things and it would still work, like OOT or something.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 8 points 13 hours ago

I never played Fallout New Vegas.
It's sitting unused in my Steam library.
Is it actually any good?

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

It has the best story of all the Fallouts, by-far. Really amazing what they managed to pull off with only 18 months of development time. But because of the rushed schedule, the game is also extremely buggy. I would not recommend playing it without mods that fix the bugs and restore missing content that wasn't finished in time for release. It also doesn't play well with modern OSes. Some people have had success running it on newer PCs but for me it's been hit or miss. Don't let that discourage you from trying it, though. It's such a good game that it's worth putting some effort into trying to get it to run.

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago

I mean, it's the Majora's Mask of Fallouts.
They already had an engine, they didn't need to play it safe, both because the flagship entry was giving it a boost and protecting it from detracting pressures.

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 7 points 12 hours ago

if you like fallout then yeah its good

if you dont like fallout or open worlds with a lot of talking to people then youll probably be bored out of your mind

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 2 points 12 hours ago

i spent hundreds of hours playing it across xbox 360 and PC.

PC is a better experience by far

[-] BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago

I don't know what I've beaten more times, New Vegas or my meat. Either way that game stays installed on my PC, Steam Deck, Xboxes, everything. I ain't no fink, dig?

Honestly it's just amazing Obsidian was able to make that game's story and assets in 18 months with Bethesda looming over their necks.

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 4 points 12 hours ago

no need to make up stories about the development, pretty much every obsidian dev cherished the opportunity to work on that engine and create a game

oh and obsidian themselves set the timeline and then mismanaged their time (like they usually do, see kotor 2)

[-] josefo@leminal.space 10 points 15 hours ago

It's the last good fallout game, how can we move on if things after it are subpar?

[-] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

I have well over 5k hours in fnv split between Xbox 360 and PC. I'm terrified there's never going to be a game like it again with the way everything is becoming a live service.

[-] OmegaMan@lemmings.world 20 points 18 hours ago

Wow that's an unpopular opinion for sure. You might get roasted for that one. What bugged you about it?

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago

Not OP but New Vegas always felt like a total overhaul mod for Fallout 3. Same assets, different location, different story, crashes a lot.

[-] Denjin@lemmings.world 12 points 16 hours ago

Basically was, Bethesda crippled Obsidian with a ridiculous target to release in so they had little to no time to work on new assets etc.

New Vegas is a great game despite its original flaws that in the years since, modders have completely fixed.

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago

no they didnt, obsidian crippled themselves by saying they can do it in 18 months and then mismanaging their time

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 4 points 14 hours ago

Honestly, I'm ok with it it. It created a game more focused on story.

[-] faktotum@leminal.space 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

For myself, I don't hate it, I just don't seem to get it like everyone else. I just leveled myself up and gave some weapons after a while because I found the combat unengaging and wanted to finish the story. I'm interested in trying out that mod pack someone else mentioned. Maybe the experience will be quite different.

[-] OmegaMan@lemmings.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Yeah the gunplay is better than fallout 3 but that's not saying much... It is pretty damn barebones. VATS can be fun though.

[-] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 4 points 14 hours ago

I am not a gamer. I enjoyed fallout 4 a lot, though, and kept hearing all this hype for New Vegas. Legit bought that game thinking it was new. Lmao

What I've played has been good, though

[-] Baggie@lemmy.zip 8 points 18 hours ago

That's a hell of a take, but I can kind of get it. It was definitely a mess at launch, and was a very different vibe from 3, which might rub you the wrong way if it's not what your preference is.

I do enjoy the shit out of it personally. Different strokes and everything though.

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[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 3 points 14 hours ago

Anyone who wants to play NV again/for the first time, check out Viva New Vegas, a modguide that makes the game actually playable and performant. There's now a Wabbajack version, meaning you can get it perfectly modded with very little user input.

I also recommend "Just Assorted Mods" if you want some modern QoL changes (sprinting, hit markers, weapon wheel, loot quickmenu, etc)

[-] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 13 hours ago

a modguide that makes the game actually playable and performant.

Can you elaborate? How is the game not playable without mods?

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

"Playable" is a spectrum. First there's the usual compatibility problems that come with running an old game on modern PCs. Plus it's a notoriously buggy game running on a notoriously buggy, engine with DX9 code that did not scale well on the CPU.

With mods you get it to running flawlessly.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

It's funny when nostalgia kicks in with stuff you never even stopped doing (like games that I regularly replay from 20+ years ago, or music I still listen to).

How tf is Doom nostalgia, I last played it like a bit over a year, maybe 18 months ago? And yet it is.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Meh. Games are mature now. Classics are classics. Just like movies.

Also, funny meme.

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