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And what are we pretending to be?

"Humans".

And what are Humans?

"Not animals, that's for sure!"

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[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

We still have this notion and hubris that we're above animals, and animals are below us who are alright being stepped on and abused. I noticed that in a lot of cultures, their insults and profanities is being compared to an animal (in Europe, the profanities seem to be generally sexual).

Also, for the religious, admitting we're animals is definitely an insult and denial of biblical teachings that god created humans. When Charles Darwin's theory of evolution first became a mainstream sensation, some cartoonists drew him as a monkey. I debated with a religious before who believes in conspiracy theories. After pointing out about evolution, I was called a monkey. I wasn't even insulted though because, yes, that is basically what I'm trying to say. But technically I'm not a monkey, I'm an ape. Humans are apes. The monkeys are our cousins. Religious folks don't like to admit we're animals because it contradicts their beliefs.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Religious folks don’t like to admit we’re animals because it contradicts their beliefs.

Their religion is based on the idea that we're special somehow. It allows their followers to feel better than the 'lesser' animals, and the 'lesser' races/cultures. They teach that we're the chosen ones with our tools, and language, and emotion, and thoughts.

The fact that we're all equal, and that other animals have all of those qualities is a threat to their power.

[-] gens@programming.dev 7 points 6 months ago

To be fair, if I took my cats values and morals there would be a bloodbath.

[-] Jimbo@yiffit.net 23 points 6 months ago

I knew the furries were right all along

[-] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

The Furries saw the truth and transcend.

[-] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 6 months ago

"I am cringe, but I am free"

[-] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

That's literally my mantra, and I'm waaaaay more happy since I accepted it

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 13 points 6 months ago

This is called speciesism, the believe that your live is worth more/you are better simply because of your species.

[-] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Speciesism is a great word and it uses all of the tools of our language in a way that makes sense.

But someone decided at some point we should call this "Anthropocentrism" instead

[-] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 months ago

I love people who are like "we need to return to nature!"

Like, I get the sentiment and we should definitely try to coexist with the rest of the animals since were smart enough to, but i think its important to remember that we are nature. We cannot separate ourselves from it. Even skyscrapers are natural. Just ask a termite.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

Yup. Pollution is natural. It's not about what's natural, but what keeps our environment in a state where we can thrive.

[-] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

You're so damn right! We can't pull us apart of nature and neither everything we do!

[-] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

You and me baby ain’t nothing but mammals so let’s do it like they do on the discovery channel

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 9 points 6 months ago

Humans could all be grey blobs and people would still argue they are greyest and blobiest. They love to feel special.

[-] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Hey, I recognize a The Fairly OddParents reference when I see one. That's good taste, fella 👌

[-] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

That's why furries were invented

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago

We don't pretend we are not animals. We pretend we are the ONLY animals, and all others are merely objects.

[-] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

The Apex Animal, the Uber-animal, the Sigma Animal 🗿

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 6 months ago

You might be interested in looking into Cynic philosophy and into the sparse but colorful stories surrounding Diogenes of Sinope

[-] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I know my fella Dionegenes pretty well. He was based as fuck 🔥🔥

[-] Forester@pawb.social 5 points 6 months ago

Pretending to be an animal doesn't solve much either but it's fun from time to time.

[-] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If we pretend to be other animal, sure isn't helpful. Is not about pretending to be this or that, but to stop the antropocentris and start to see ourselves as part of something, not something apart of everything else.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 5 points 6 months ago

I don't know that taxonomy is our biggest problem...

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

There's psychology that goes along with it, it's not just scientific classification. It's also about ego.

[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago
[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Would an animal fart like that?

[-] Aarrodri@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Agree we are animals..but not sure that is the biggest problem..

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

The only animal capbable of destroying the earth and creating stock exchanges. And vaping. And sending a message to the universe.

Plus the 1969 Chevrolet Corvette.

Ha! Suck it, trilobites!

[-] MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

Only second to cyanobacteria.

[-] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Speak for yourself. I'm a filthy mo fo

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[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 6 months ago

If aliens were to visit Earth, human vs. not-humans (aka sentient vs. not) would be the single biggest thing to consider. Far more so than male vs. female, plants vs. animals, even alive vs. nonliving (rocks), humans can literally send nukes in their direction while they hang in outer space, while literally nothing else can. We light up the night sky... on purpose and could stop it in a moment if we wanted.

We're kinda a big deal.

Although now computers (e.g. Skynet) could do it too, so it's humans and those highly specialized rocks together on one side, vs. literally everything else on the other.

So humans are not "just" animals, like computers are not "just" rocks.

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