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Job hunting is so fucking demoralizing.
At least they tell you you didn't pass. The norm is not answering.
Had it not been for the second part of the message, I think they wouldn't have bothered.
This is the reason.
Actually to me this doesn’t sound so bad. Yes OP is rejected and that sucks. Beyond that they ask you to fill out a survey which they hope will improve their future hiring process. I am sceptical that they will get anything useful out of the survey, but I really do not see the problem tbh.
On one hand, its nice that they actually responded, because even that can't be taken for granted nowadays.
On the other hand, they spent more text on telling you they're holding onto your data (and trying to milk you for more) than they did telling you the thing the email was about!!
I'm only surprised that all these other companies aren't sending me messages that they're holding on to my data. That seems like a GDPR violation. Might be okay for companies that only operate inside the UK, but I know a lot of the ones I have applied for aren't like that.
The UK has a domestic law identical to the GDPR (usually referred to as UK GDPR if the distinction is needed). It was implemented before we actually left the EU
So just plain illegal then. But who's going to stop them?
If they kept data without telling you, yes. If they just deleted it after rejecting or ignoring your application then I don't think they need to say anything
Here's the .gov page for how to make a complaint about it if you do think that they're getting up to shit https://www.gov.uk/data-protection/make-a-complaint
Also, just... Good luck, and stay strong. Job hunting really is a fucking miserable experience
Seems like you could reply saying
"You are not permitted to keep my data. If you're not going to hire me, delete it immediately."
It would burn that bridge, but maybe that's a good thing.
"Here is the feedback you requested, blah blah blah blah ...
As you have contracted my expertise for improving your HR process, and we both acknowledge that my time is valuable, my invoice is attached below for (x) hours charged at (y/hr), payable upon receipt of this feedback. Failure to respond in a timely manner to the negative constitutes legally-binding agreement of payment. Payment in full is due within 30 business days."
Yeah I know it wouldn't stick, but might be fun to make them at least waste some time to respond or refute.
That's literally Sovereign Citizen rhetoric and will earn you a spot on !insanepeoplefacebook@lemmy.world.
Don't forget to add a red thumbprint at a 35° angle!
This is probably an unpopular take, and it should be noted that I'm just totally disregarding the whole personal data aspect of this, but... I kinda appreciate it when I'm given some kind of way to provide feedback on stuff like this. If there was one part of the process that was more absurd than even I expected, or if just the whole thing is shit, I prefer to be able to express that. Maybe it just makes me feel better I guess. Sometimes it's cathartic to chew out a survey form over something that was so egregious that it's made me angry.
I'm also a huge advocate for exit interviews though. Somebody quits, ask them why, what was good, what was bad. Fire someone, ask them just the same. A lot of my work experience has been yearly contracts where termination is scheduled, expected, and common, but I do think other types of employers would benefit from actually proactively seeking feedback.
This example probably isn't that and the employer is probably shit, but I just wanted to put that out there.
Smells like a dodged bullet, tho
I try to comfort myself with such thoughts.
Isn't that Mike Ashley's clownshow? Sounds like you dodged a bullet.
That said, I suppose depending on where you are in your career, it's good experience and portfolio work.
Reminds me of the police service in Scotland inviting people to complete a survey... about their stay in police custody. I'm not entirely sure what results they're expecting there. Probably the brainchild of some "management consultant" who has probably never set foot in a public building before.
Dodged a bullet in the sense that I'm sure it's a shit company, but right now, I just need a job that pays more than £29,000 a year so I can get a family visa for my wife and daughter. Any job. I will worry about a good job later. I even held my nose and applied for a job at Phillip-Morris.
I have what I have been told multiple times is a very impressive CV, but so far, no luck. I have about two months' worth of savings to find a job.
Good luck.
When I joined the workforce full time a good number of years ago. I was chuffed to fuck to be earning £20k a year at the time. In the intervening years, the cost of living has gotten ludicrous.
In metropolitan areas, I'm not quite sure how anyone but the DINKys can cope with the financial pressures of city living.
I will live in a hovel if it means my daughter won't be put in a camp.
What are you referring to with your daughter going into a camp?
I'm referring to the queer genocide that Trump is going to start any time now.
I'm sure someone will chime in and tell me that won't happen.
Holy shit man you moved your family across the planet because you think that is going to happen?
I admire your courage but you should have tried opening up your news source bubble first.
Yep, that's what I thought.
You might want to look at Project 2025.
Or just listen to virtually everything Republicans say about queer people.
And even if she doesn't get put in a camp, I want her to be able to do things like get married if she wants to. Considering states are asking SCOTUS to revisit that ruling, and the makeup of SCOTUS, she's never going to be able to do that in America.
You are, I am guessing, not queer. You are safe. Get out of your bubble and talk to queer Americans because I think you might be surprised (or maybe you don't give a shit).
Edit: Oh look, a bunch of right-wing homophobic downvoters.
I've been searching on Project 25 for about 45 minutes now. I haven't been able to find anyone who both (a) summarizes the document and (b) provides citations in the form of page numbers for their claims about what it says.
I'm tempted to just read the whole thing and then publish my own summary.
But until I do that, I'm in the dark about what it says. According to ChatGPT,
Project 2025 proposes removing protections against discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity, eliminating diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives, and enforcing a binary definition of gender.
Nothing about making gay marriage illegal, nor anything about rounding queer people into camps. But ChatGPT could be wrong. I don't know.
What have you read about Project 2025? Did you save the links of things you read about it? Can you link me to whatever convinced you of this?
Not really.
You make some points I agree with, you make some points I'm neutral on, and you make some points I disagree with.
In nearly all cases though, you appear to take an insular view which comes across as confrontational and adds little to the discussion but a sour taste.
It's pointless discussing a topic with you when you either take a deep rooted view with no opportunity for open discussion, and/or take a childish "I told you so" position when hearing a dissenting view.
That's likely why you are getting downvotes. Other views may apply.
FlyingSquid, I respect you as a member of this community. I've mostly enjoyed our interactions here over the last couple of years since I joined. I love your no context comics community. I respect your opinion.
I know you're under enormous stress right now, having just moved your family to another country.
My intention is not to attack you here. My intention is to help you see the truth so that you can make solid, well-founded decisions for your family.
That's why I ask for citations on your beliefs: to challenge what I think might be unfounded conclusions. This is a very high-stakes game, because it has inspired you to uproot your family across the globe.
I want the truth for both of us. If my political party has done something to make this country inhospitable for you or your daughter, I want to know so that I can work within my party to end whatever it is has sent you on the run.
If it hasn't, then I want to make that clear so you don't have to feel that there's fire at your back when there isn't.
I want what's best for you and your family. I don't want you to be a political refugee. I don't want my country to be the kind of place that produces political refugees.
The only advise I can give you is make a people network for yourself. Make connections everywhere since life is more about who you know than what you know.
I wouldn't even know how. We know no one around here.
Your best bet is to go through companies that are interesting relevant and find someone who is a hiring manager or has something in common with you. Once you find them, send them a nice LinkedIn message explaining how much you love the company/product/culture and if they are interested in having a coffee chat.
Basically, you gotta get past the gate keepers (recruiters) and you'll find things open up. Most recruiters are fucking shit (especially at mega corps) and are just looking to check boxes. Go around them.
Source: I'm a tech recruiter whose moved from America (at the start of trump's first term) to multiple European countries without a plan in place.
P.s. have a look at the Netherlands, there's a lot of need for talent and quite a few companies will sponsor if you meet the income reqs.
I wouldn't even know how to find such people, unfortunately. Most hiring managers know nothing at all about media production. Some of the job ads are hilarious. The ones that expect me to edit with Capcut and do graphics with Canva are the worst. I apply for them anyway, but these people have no idea.
At least they had the courtesy to actually tell you that you didn't make the cut. Most places just never respond.
Had a friend's dead parent receive a text from the ambulance service asking how they did.
KPM surveys need to go away forever.
If it was even ever a real position you applied for or just a method they do to fill their "shortlist". Got a linkedin message for a job from a, I kid you not, lead generation manager at a lead generation company. They guy gives no details and sends me a link and does not reply when I ask for details in text.
I got the same request last week. Wankers
Cheers! I’m in the exact same boat! Perhaps we’re the vanguard of the AI-jobpocalypse…
Good luck!
Thanks! You too!
Probably worth doing if you can write "eat shit" for every answer.
Job hunting is so fucking demoralizing.
Hang in there, fam! When you get that first job offer it'll be worth it.
You want to give honest feedback. Don't burn bridges.
I'm not going to give any feedback.
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