I actually see Seth MacFarlane as a (mostly) decent person, with much of the humor in Family Guy being the fault of postmodernism and irony melting American brains. Family Guy makes a lot of trashy jokes, but I think the intent of them is to laugh at American culture rather than whatever stereotypes they're joking about. I even think he's kind of moved past it, since he's essentially just been leveraging Family Guy just to get to make his Star Trek show.

Idk, I've learned to set aside people's more problematic aspects as long as they kick their heels in where it really matters. Standing with the writers every time, even back in 2007 when it caused Family Guy to get entirely dropped by Fox. This isn't even him just doing it because he had nothing to lose. He almost lost Family Guy over this. I will almost always respect people putting their money where their mouth is.

Hehehehehehehe hey lois, remember the time we got too drunk and took the Tsar down to the mine?

It's a good thing that Matt Groening basically stopped having much to do with the Simpsons past the first few seasons

The commonly agreed upon classic Simpsons (seasons 3 through 8) he basically was just around to nitpick and after that he went to start work on Futurama

He apparently also didn't like Hitler jokes for some reason, so it's good that enough got past him that we could get this

I want to like Seth MacFarlane - but something about his comedy style, and also on the Orville, is very arrogant and self important. I mean, he kind has to be to put himself in every starring and singing role .

But as I was watching Orville I noticed that a series of young actresses came onto the show in big roles, and then left after a season. Turns out that corresponds directly with who Seth was dating at the time. Everyone is consenting adults and I haven't heard any allegations of misconduct, but he's like twice their age, and also their boss, and that kind of weirds me out.

I don't think Seth has been involved in family guy for a long time outside of voice acting but I prefer American Dad.

The abuse Meg suffers for laughs is so gross that I can't look past it.

yeah but he gets the

Shitty in some ways and probably a bit transphobic but he really does care about the craft. He wouldn't integrate so much musical theater into his idiotic dick joke cartoons otherwise

Im a Family Guy Socialist

Time travel episode where Brian and Stewie accidently bring Mort Goldman back to the Soviet Union.

MORT:

Don't worry you two, I have a relative that lived in Moscow at this time.

BRIAN:

Really?

MORT:

A Jewish Doctor in 1952 Moscow, what could go wrong?

why's he a real one

He's one of those ones were I give him more leeway than he probably deserves. Family Guy was good when it started, and I know he's not too involved in it beyond voices now. I liked The Orville, especially by the end, and he and I have similar taste in music. I think, and this is how I judge a lot of these types of creatives, that his best impulses outweigh his worst ones. That could change, and it often does as these people get older, but he could certainly be worse.