Yet, somehow Google Glass was reason to beat up its nosy users.

I did that for about 6 months, mostly to see how good the detection was in frigate (new 0.15.0 release last week, fyi) when I first got it running but the novelty wore off.

I see people in line at the grocery store watching their family watch TV in their living room. That's creepy to me.

Blue Iris will use pretty Much any cameras including Ubiquiti, has a mobile app for viewing and alerts, and has self hosted AI object recognition using code project. Its entirely off the grid if you want it to be. I know it just saves to folders that you could backup, but it will also do ftp, etc out of the box

Hm. I’m not sure.

I know they expose rtsp or rstp or whatever protocol, so maybe you could wire something up to record off the stream.

And self hosting can also be cheaper, unless you're a huge consumer of the service. How many people watch enough Netflix to make the sub cheaper than buying the media instead? We cancelled Disney Plus and bought the few series they like and we've already saved money.

Economies of scale are absolutely a thing, but I think there's a sweet spot where self hosting can be cheaper for a lot of people.

I get what you’re saying, but I’m not talking about SaaS products. I’m talking about physical things on local networks that don’t need cloud access.

For example, a common wall switch may use mqtt internally, but inexplicably railroad all commands through the online Tuya platform. The device requires a beefier ESP chip as a result. It must be capable of ethernet and async workflows for client platform auth, token refresh, and so forth. It may even cease functioning when it can’t reach the servers.

By comparison, the strictly intranetwork equivalent has far simpler hardware that can run for months on a watch battery. And yet, the cloud-based product will basically always be cheaper, in spite of being more complex and requiring cloud infrastructure.

So, how come? Yes economies of scale might apply to the hardware manufacturing, but certainly not to the cloud requirement. No economy scales quite like 0.

I use a specialised hammer-and-anvil system that produces an audible notification whenever someone use it.

I've got a bell, spring, and pull handle. It's genuinely amazing

Or HomeAssistant with Frigate

Anything that requires a subscription is a no-go. Especially when it's running on my hardware.

it's so funny to see people on lemmy who fell for cloud connected cameras. you'd think this group would be the last to fall for it, maybe not. i've even received them as gifts (very expensive ones) but i just threw it in the trash because that is better than anyone using it.

Well, after we put in our cameras, the cops did come knocking to investigate a shooting across the street.

As I explained to the cops: "The cameras trigger on motion, not sound, and they're only pointed at our property, not across the street. No records."

Cops left after that.