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[-] Nougat@fedia.io 3 points 1 month ago

“There are instances where in classrooms, you have curriculum that is needed to use flags such as World War II, Civil War,” he said. “You may have a Nazi flag. You may have a Confederate flag, and so you are allowed to display those flags… as part of the curriculum, and that is okay.”

There are no such instances. Students are fully capable of learning about the Confederacy and the Nazis without those actual flags being present in the classroom. They know this, so there must be some other reason they're pushing this bill.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I dunno, man, I didn't understand the Holocaust at all until my teacher starved some students to death and tossed them in an oven.

[-] big_slap@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

if this were to actually happen, I'm positive some people still wouldn't get it

[-] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

They'd just do what they've been trained to do since 2016. "Fake news! Fake news!"

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago

They're also admitting that they don't teach anything about LGBTQ+ at all in any realm. Not health class, civics, history, art, nothing.

[-] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I had friends raised in Utah. This is true. You might get a week-long unit at the high school, but otherwise, unless you have a GSA club, LGBTQ+ history is muffled.

But oohhhh, they'll talk about Pioneer History every year in History class.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

And by Pioneer History, they mean Mormon-church approved Mormon history.

[-] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

We should do something about the Mormons.

[-] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Honest question: is there any other state/region in the world where a cult has unbridled power?

Utah boggles my mind.

[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

Iran. North Korea. Russia.

"Congratulations" for joining that party.

[-] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, ok. So not even pretending to hide it anymore. I fucking hate this country.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Why would they hide it? The more they flaunt, the more their base is emboldened. Turns out people fucking love evil.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I firmly believe this is because we've lost almost all of our world war two veterans. These shitlords kept it under wraps all these years because deep down, they knew pap paw would 100% get up out of his wheelchair to kill one last Nazi.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I think we know the solution then.

Be like pap paw

[-] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Do they also salute the flag with a musk salute?

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I think calling it a Musk Salute might actually be a great idea if the media is so unwilling to call it a Nazi Seig Heil.

Call it a Musk Salute to the Nazi flag.

[-] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It also makes a lot of sense because in German the salute is called “Hitlergruß” (which literally translates to Hitler salute), because the accompanying words were mostly “Heil Hitler” and not “Sieg Heil” (which also was used, but less common), so you were saluting Hitler. So when Musk does it is in fact a “Sieg Heil”, but when somebody else salutes the American flag it is a Musk salute because you are saluting Musk, the Führer of the USA

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Approved flags for display in government buildings and schools would include the Utah state and U.S. flags, military flags, flags for other countries, flags for Native American tribes and official flags for colleges and universities. The bill also allows for the flying of a “historic version of a flag ... that is temporarily displayed for educational purposes,”

So, fuck it, every school in Utah should do a special educational bit about the history of the city of Cusco between 1978 and 2021..

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago

This is some BS man. He's saying you can fly the Nazi flag because it's "historic". Well, hell, isn't the gay pride flag historic? Good luck getting a definition out of these fucks. If he could write the law he really wanted to write it would say "keep off any flags I don't agree with".

[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Technically, if something happened yesterday, it is also historic.

More along the lines of not wanting kids to know or being exposed to lgbtq culture, but he is fine with kids knowing about and being exposed to Nazi culture

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

.... And so there were swastika flags too, here is one! let me wave it around so that you can imagine how it was to live in nazi Germany! Now when these flags were flying it would be customary to make an official greeting to the one true savior, der Fuhrer ~~musk~~ Hitler, here, let me show you how

I'm fucking bracing myself for WWIII, these fuckers will start it

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You know how people say the fact that we never excised confederates/slavery from amongst us has led to modern issues? Well, the same holds true of Mormons. Most Americans have no idea the level of money, clout, and insane shit based in Utah. For example, I bet you didn't know the Mormon church owns approximately 1 in every ~550 acres of privately-held land in the United States. Warning: the Mormon bullshit rabbit hole is deeper than you can imagine and may cause you to start writing a years-long book project, in my experience. You've been warned!

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Mormonism is America's future. It's the prosperity gospel attached to a powerful lobbying contingent that exists to perpetuate MLM schemes.

If you think things are bad now, wait until Mormons are fully in control of California.

[-] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's a strange veer towards a completely unrelated topic... But anyway, considering that roughly 1 in 100 people are Mormon in the US, it's not that surprising that 1 in 550 of the land also is. It's surprising they're trailing so far behind the average actually.

EDIT: oh wait, you mean the church owns it. Yeah, ok, that is very weird. But Mormonism is a very weird thing by definition...

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that's church-owned. But does raise the interesting point of prominent Mormon billionaires/CEOs. And investment firms. And investments. And their history with the federal government/Republicans. And...

[-] mizuki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 month ago

God I hate living in Utah.

[-] a_astra@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Whole world is going crazy like that nazi/right way. Not just Utah. There is no place to escape. We should be strong and withstand these "tests" of our worldview.

[-] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago
[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Racism, bigotry, and polygamy.

[-] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Not alot of Jazz music though…as the NBA team would suggest

[-] maplehill@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

I suggest they change to the Utah Mormoms or Utah Polygamists.

[-] ninjabard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Even my "It was about states' rights" History teacher didn't have a Confederate flag. So, get bent Utah.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Headline is kind of clickbait

The bill also allows for the flying of a “historic version of a flag ... that is temporarily displayed for educational purposes,”

“There are instances where in classrooms, you have curriculum that is needed to use flags such as World War II, Civil War,” he said. “You may have a Nazi flag. You may have a Confederate flag, and so you are allowed to display those flags… as part of the curriculum, and that is okay.”

The law is still dumb for wanting to ban the pride flag.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Y'all, it's not 2014 anymore.

You want to change the symbolic stuff, your focus as to be on workers, jobs, and the economy first. The voters at large do not give a fuck about political correctness, SJW ideology, or fascism. They do give a fuck about being able to eat and provide for their families, though, and that's how you'll win them back.

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