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My company's buyout has been completed, and their IT team is in the final stages of gutting our old systems and moving us on to all their infra.

Sadly, this means all my Linux and FOSS implementations I've worked on for the last year are getting shut down and ripped out this week. (They're all 100% Microsoft and proprietary junk at the new company)

I know it's dumb to feel sad about computers and software getting shut down, but it feels sucky to see all my hours of hard work getting trashed without a second thought.

That's the nature of a corpo takeover though. Just wanted to let off some steam to some folks here who I know would understand.

FOSS forever! ✊

Edit: Thanks, everybody so much for the kind words and advice!

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[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 253 points 5 days ago

You put lots of time and effort in. Now it will be discarded due to decisions of others.

Sad and/or disappointed feelings are normal.

Take care of yourself.

[-] leisesprecher@feddit.org 61 points 5 days ago

I think we (as an industry) need to be honest to ourselves and admit that pretty much everything we're building is temporary. And not in a philosophical sense. 90% of the code I wrote in my about 10 years of professional work is probably gone by now - sometimes replaced by myself. In another ten years, chances are not a single line of code will have survived.

Everything is temporary, except for that 25 year old system that's keeping everything running and can't be replaced because nobody knows how or why it works just that if you touch it everything falls over.

[-] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 32 points 5 days ago

25 years ago the system was setup as a quick temporary solution.

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[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 47 points 5 days ago

Thanks 🤜🤛

[-] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago

Well... shit. My company just sold my department to another company. The phrase they use in the office is "a Microsoft shop". We're talking Windows, Teams, Azure and O365.

The transition is going to be shit. After the transition is over, it will be shit.

I might just operate my workflow entirely out of WSL2 out of spite.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

I feel simultaneously good and bad that the least modern team at my company is the Windows admin team. I hope they were embarrassed as shit when they were asked how that automated process I help them create 9 months ago was going and they said, "Uh, we'll be rolling it out this quarter." They're constantly at least 2 steps behind our Linux admins.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago

Teams is its own plane of hell. Sorry to hear.

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[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I work at a "Microsoft Shop" in a division that was a previously acquired software developer that used an entirely linux based dev stack.

That stack is still all linux and we basically have to do all our work in WSL. It's a pain.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 129 points 5 days ago

it feels sucky to see all my hours of hard work getting trashed without a second thought.

I'm an electronic security installer. You know how many times I've done stuff like install a complete 40+ camera CCTV system at a new store under construction only to be back at the same store a year later ripping it all out when it goes out of business? I know what that feels like.

Worst is when you come around for a regular store equipment refresh and recognize something you installed at that store ten years ago and start feeling real old...

Good luck wherever life takes you now.

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 21 points 5 days ago

Sorry to hear that, sounds rough too! Thanks for the well wishes, I'm talking with a few different recruiters right now and applying to some positions.

Still have my job currently, but hopefully I can make the jump soon to a Linux environment.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 16 points 5 days ago

I was assigned the installation of a whole industrial line for food packaging, multiple millions worth, on and off I spent like 8 months abroad forcing badly designed machines into working (I was the top tech and I resigned after this job), even ended up in the hospital, likely due to stress. Few months after I left, I go out drinking with a former colleague who had been on site with me, he says: "Well, I'm happy to inform you that, the customer hasn't called us for months! Means everything's working, great job!" and shook my hand.

The following morning, another former colleague sends me the screenshot of a mail from the customer saying that the business opportunities didn't work out and they're decommissioning the line. Literal blood, sweat and tears, completely wasted.

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[-] ad_on_is@lemm.ee 20 points 4 days ago

At least you learned a lot along your journey, while getting paid for it. So it's not entirely a waste of time.

[-] VeryVito@lemmy.ml 43 points 4 days ago

This won’t be the last time, I’m afraid. At the end of the day, software developers build sandcastles.

If you want to build something that will outlast your company, make sure you also have a hobby or craft outside of computing.

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 90 points 5 days ago

Hoard a copy of your work. Even if your new overlords are gutting and replacing it, ot might be useful elsewhere one day.

Source: Similar situation once upon a time. I am currently using on a daily basis what was once replaced in a different company.

[-] brandon@lemmy.ml 80 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Please be careful when copying anything that could be considered your employer's intellectual property (almost certainly anything you built as an employee falls into this category) off of that employer's systems.

And definitely be even more careful about using one employer's IP for a new employer (neither company would be pleased to discover this).

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 37 points 5 days ago

I am careful, but not concerned. The new company's IT doesn't give a damn about anything that I set up or implemented. Their reactions when I was describing my work and job role before the buyout was essentially, "Aww, the cute little sysadmin was making scripts and using Linux, isn't that sweet."

As far as they're concerned, all the old hardware and software are e-waste and are being scrapped. They are ripping out everything, literally. From our phone system, to our physical devices, to our firewalls, network switches, Active Directory, and file server.

They are replacing every single part of our infrastructure. Everything I built is useless in their eyes.

[-] obbeel@lemmy.eco.br 28 points 5 days ago

It's incredible how that proprietary software is actually inefficient e-waste. Most FOSS isn't bloated or slow, but proprietary software got the high ground because of contracts and "security", I'm sure.

[-] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 20 points 4 days ago

I always advocate for FOSS solutions at my work, but most of the time I get shut down with some variation of “We prefer $MSP’s solution because it gives us someone else to blame if shit hits the fan”. I hate that sentiment, but I appreciate the honesty.

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[-] Verqix@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

But it's also difficult to prove you didn't make it similarly 2 times. Just do some name changing, reordering and some slight changes and you should be golden.

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[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 16 points 5 days ago

Already backed up securely and anonymously :)

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That sucks. I know what it’s like to feel like the only voice of reason when your company is shooting itself in the foot.

I see from other comments you’re already looking for a new job, which is a very good idea. From your description of this buyout, it seems very likely that you’re about 6 months to a year out from the layoff stage of the private equity playbook.

At the end of the day you’ll always have the experience you gained from building all that stuff. Perhaps you’ll get a chance to build it back even better somewhere else!

[-] treadful@lemmy.zip 63 points 5 days ago

I know it’s dumb to feel sad about computers and software getting shutdown, but it feels sucky to see all my hours of hard work getting trashed without a second thought.

Sadly, something we all have to get used to. Everything we do is ephemeral and the next guy will likely have better/different ideas on how to do things.

Basically everything I've ever built has been torn down or somehow bastardized eventually.

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[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 49 points 4 days ago

That's unfortunate. Both for throwing out all of your work and replacing it with an objectively inferior solution with poor track record of long-term sustainability.

[-] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 57 points 5 days ago

My job title is "Linux System Administrator". I'd quit if they tried to make me drop Linux.

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 60 points 5 days ago

I tried to push back, but they are a much larger company and they made it clear that I would be playing by their rules, not mine.

I was thinking of quitting immediately, but at least in my region of the country, the IT market is really rough right now, so I can't afford to be out of work for months.

I won't last long here though. They are half owned by a private equity firm, so they run everything based on the bottom line. Their IT team is understaffed, underpaid, and they are always looking for excuses to lay folks off or fire them. Their turnover rate is pretty high, burnout is rife.

[-] vanderbilt@lemmy.world 44 points 5 days ago

Start job hunting now. By the sound of it they are one of those PE firms that zombie walk every acquisition into mediocrity.

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 26 points 5 days ago

For sure, I'm on it already.

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[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago

I think I'm a cloud engineer, so I can't use the same reasoning as you; but when I started at my company, I was given the option of either a Linux laptop with root or a Mac laptop. Obviously I selected Linux, but about a year later they started retiring all Linux laptops. The reason for this, I was told, is because the IT department didn't know how to manage Linux laptops but they were familiar with Jamf. They did let us keep root on them, though.

I still miss using that laptop for work. The good news is, since they never implemented mandatory RTO policies, the company moved to a much smaller office. In doing so, they needed to reduce inventory, so they gave away the old laptops (sans drives) to their employees. I now own the same laptop (or a very similar one)!

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 23 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

My work laptop is a Thinkpad running Debian with the Plasma DE, I love it so much. Everything is snappy and clean, set up and tuned perfectly to my preferences.

It's getting wiped in a few days. I requested to keep it as a personal device if I wiped it, they denied that request. I even offered to buy it back from the company, but still no.

At least I get to keep it instead of using their bulky, crappy HPs, but replacing my sleek Debian system with Windows 11 feels so wrong.

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[-] NightShot@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

Start your own company :-)

[-] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 69 points 5 days ago

It's not dumb to feel sad about it. Enshittification is sad, especially when you see it from the inside.

[-] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 54 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Better start looking for a new job. That company might not be in business for too long, judging from the choices that they're making. Especially, if they work in the IT space.

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 days ago

For sure, already reaching out to recruiters and applying to some job postings.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 38 points 5 days ago

I don't think feeling sad in this situation is dumb at all

I'm with you in your pain Linux brother/sister... I'll drink a pint in your name tonight

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 days ago

Thank you, I might join in spirit heh 👊

[-] harrowhawk@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 5 days ago

I’m sorry, friend.

If any of those deployments included code you or your team wrote, I highly encourage archiving it in VCS somewhere, even if only internally.

Also do a formal write up of all the deployments and why each tech choice was made.

Your hard won knowledge and skills should be preserved somewhere.

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 33 points 5 days ago

Got everything saved already. They are wiping my Linux laptop Wednesday and putting Windows 11 on it. Looking forward to my sleek and fast Thinkpad to get much slower and clunkier. 😮‍💨

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[-] TheBakedPotato@sh.itjust.works 42 points 5 days ago

Yo, that's not being dumb. That's a legitimate complaint. The OS you use is a tool you use to effectively do your job. A welder would equally be upset if their boss swapped out their welder for an inferior one they are less familiar with.

[-] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 23 points 5 days ago

Your feelings are valid, that blows.

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[-] sith@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago
[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago

That's a damn shame, I'm sorry! I hope you got to back up a few of your personal things, and if you didn't at least you have a bunch of knowledge to take onto your next project

[-] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 days ago

Weres crowd strike windows shitting the bed when u need it

[-] Coldmoon@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

Man it does stink. Get some of them up on GitHub or Gitlab if you can.

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