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submitted 3 weeks ago by KayLeadfoot@fedia.io to c/news@lemmy.world

Dateline, Düsseldorf! In a move that’s sure to ruffle some feathers at Tesla HQ, a German court has officially ruled that Tesla’s Autopilot system is “unsuitable for use” due to a long-standing issue: phantom braking. You know, that fun little quirk where your car slams the brakes for no reason.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 68 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

an independent expert drove a Tesla Model 3 for 600 kilometers of Bavarian highways and experienced five separate phantom braking incidents.

I've said it before, those cars should not be street legal.
It's not just the phantom breaking, it also 30% failure rate at 4 year safety checks in Denmark, and higher average accident rate than any other car.

https://opentools.ai/news/tesla-model-3-inspection-failures-spark-concerns-in-denmark

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevebanker/2025/02/11/tesla-again-has-the-highest-accident-rate-of-any-auto-brand/

These are not just anecdotal incidents, but a proven systemic problem throughout the design of Tesla cars.
Blinkers that are Inconvenient in maybe 10% the cases you use them, may be a minor thing, until you have an accident because of it!

[-] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 22 points 3 weeks ago

That's more than 1 brake check per hour at the speed they were testing the system at.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Yes in fact at 200 km/h it's almost 2 per hour!!!
That's insane. 🤪

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 weeks ago

Expect Vance to threaten war with Germany over this

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 weeks ago

Tesla Germany: The Phantom Menace.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

How dare they protect their citizens!

[-] dmtalon@infosec.pub 10 points 3 weeks ago

Make elon (Tesla) accountable for accidents/deaths, and I bet they'll either disable it or make it work (which I think is a long way off).

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not defending Tesla or phantom braking, but German drivers could also take some lessons on safe following distance. They will ride on your ass for many km even if they don't want to pass you.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Is there a place in Europe where that doesn't happen? I'm riding an articulated bus tailgating someone in the leftmost lane on the motorway in Belgium right now

[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Well yes, you will be constantly tailgated on the left (fast) lane unless there's traffic ahead of you.

Scoot over and let me break the speed limit in peace, or do you need me to TURN ON MY LEFT BLINKERS? (which by the way has got to be the most aggressively polite way of raging at someone in traffic)

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago

I have only driven in 2 countries in Continental Europe, and I have mostly traveled by train otherwise. You could be right. It happens in the US but by a smaller subset of drivers. Those drivers would generally be considered assholes in the US, whereas in your example they're probably just being Belgian.

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