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[-] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

Maybe this is how the consoles die. Do they really make that much on hardware?

I’m guessing they make their money on taking a percentage from each game sold on their hardware.

I wonder if we will see the end of PlayStation at some point as people transition to things like the steamdeck.

It has all the benefits of pcgaming and can really just be interacted with like a console.

[-] dipcart@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

The steam deck is the best thing to happen to gaming in a long time. My partner and I fight over it because we only have one. It actually got me back into gaming in general for the first time in years. I have a ps5 and an Xbox series s and a switch but i hadn't played in years until the steam deck. I really believe that the steam deck and things like it will change the way games are made. Its wild stuff.

[-] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

I think it already has. Basically every modern game works in it. The iGPU is good but some games don’t look great, but the fact that these games will at least be playable is amazing.

I’m playing showed now and it runs and looks great. Of course it’s far from what a modern dgpu can make it look like, but I’m never gaming at a desk again.

[-] dipcart@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I hope it continues that way. I've seen some recent news on the idea that games always looking bigger and better doesn't actually make better games or even make people want to play. I think that's illustrated by the success of the steam deck.

The other part of it is that it makes steam approachable to people who otherwise would never think about a gaming PC. A few weeks ago, my partner could not have told me what steam was. Now, she takes my deck to play baldurs gate. The ease of access, price, and versatility can not be overstated. She literally said its her favourite piece of tech, which is a strange compliment from someone like her. She hasn't touched her switch since. She told me I can play stardew while she plays baldurs gate.

[-] AAA@feddit.org 45 points 2 days ago

No shit. If you artificially limit your customer base... and then open up.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 30 points 2 days ago

"Old PS5 games"
PS5 is a 4 year old console

[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 7 points 1 day ago

Right, but most PS5 games are PS4 games.

[-] atomicpoet@kbin.earth 3 points 2 days ago

I remember gaming in the 80s and 90s, and four-year-old games were regarded as ancient. Times have really changed.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Imagine how much money they would print if you released the new ones on PC too

[-] ObstreperousCanadian@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 days ago

This is why Microsoft doesn't care about exclusivity anymore. Consoles were sold at a loss to sell software, but if you can sell your software anywhere, you're ahead of the game.

[-] atomicpoet@kbin.earth 7 points 2 days ago

Microsoft also has the benefit of owning Windows.

Personally, I just just hook up my PC to my TV, run Steam in Big Picture mode, and it gives me a console experience. Not a perfect console experience, mind you, but good enough for me.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 2 days ago

The only thing that doesn't make it perfect for me is the fact that so many games running on PC, even if they have a console version, don't have UI scaling options to make anything readable at TV distance.

[-] Zahille7@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

"Old" PS5 games

[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 30 points 2 days ago

I’m just waiting for them to release Bloodborne on PC. Everybody says it’s great, but I ain’t going to buy a PlayStation console just for one game.

[-] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 days ago

It runs pretty well on emulator, if you don't mind donning the tricorne.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

Which emu? I tried on Shad literally a week ago and it was too buggy to play. And what settings do you use?

[-] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

I'm playing on shadps4 0.6.0, with the vertex explosion fix mod, and a couple of the emulator mods (60fps, disabled a couple things but I don't remember off the top of my head).

I have a pretty old PC, 2060RTX and 6700k CPU, and other than some crashes here and there and some terrible lag/frame pacing sometimes, it works pretty well! Good enough for me at least, been waiting many years to play.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

Vertex explosions is specifically the issue that was making it unplayable for me, I'm going to have to find this mod now! Thanks!

[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

https://www.nexusmods.com/bloodborne/mods/109

1 step install. You just replace the face models in the game files with ones that don't explode.

[-] kugmo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

I've used older builds of shadps4 and it works for me. You still need mods like 60 fps, disable facial animations, intel CPU fix.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

I have 60 FPS, didn't know about disable facial animations and I don't have an Intel CPU. What version of shad did you use?

[-] kugmo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

I'm using the latest development build, but it has worked since the 5.0 development builds.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Same build then. :( Maybe the facial animations mod will help me.

[-] kugmo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

The only other mod that could help is the Polaris graphics fix on nexus, that's if you have a AMD RX 400/500 GPU.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

Nah. RTX 3060 and Ryzen 3600X.

It is the only fromsoft game I have hated. I have no idea where the love comes from

[-] Juice@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago

The love comes from the fact that it is a masterpiece. I have no idea where the hate comes from.

You're entitled to your opinion of course, but the game you describe in your next comment is not the Bloodborne I have spent an ungodly amount of time playing and helping others to get through.

I've had difficulty getting started with Souls games before, Sekiro took me like 5 or 6 years to git gud after starting and quitting in frustration half a dozen times. Bloodborne failed to hook me the first couple times, but once I got it I was completely hooked.

But weapon design, drip, environment, story, all these things are practically unrivalled by any game. Gameplay is maybe second to Sekiro and Elden ring, and Bloodborne being locked at 30 fps is pure pain. There is nothing like the trick weapon system that makes each weapon practically a completely unique gaming experience, with almost all weapons being both viable and fun to play with. Elden ring and ds3 for example just have buckets of garbage weapons. Bloodborne has like maybe 1 objectively bad weapon, and a couple that are strong but kinda boring, and maybe a few that are fun but underpowered in higher ng+ cycles.

Still bust this out around Halloween and help new players through the game for a few weeks every year.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

Interesting. From what little I've played it felt like the same formula. They all play relatively similar. What turned you off most?

Greater lack of direction than most of their games, the artwork, and the color scheme.

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

I didn't get far enough to speak on direction of the game, and while I liked the colors and aesthetic, it's hard to look past the intense blurring effects that make it look like the game is being played through a smear of petroleum jelly.

[-] mrfriki@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

And it only took 15 years for them to realize that. Bravo!

[-] Zozano@aussie.zone 19 points 2 days ago

Imagine if you released your entire fucking thirty year old library.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 8 points 2 days ago

PS4 and PS5 games are much easier to port to PC since those consoles are essentially PC hardware.

Older games need to be rebuilt for completely different hardware, so it's actually a lot more work. Not to say it wouldn't be nice, but it's not as easy and may not be worth the money, and there is less interest for a lot of that stuff.

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

To be fair to at least ps2/x games, there would probably be nothing stopping them from taking something like one of the popular open source emulators, shutting them down, and then hiring anyone they can from the project to work on an official emulator on their end that allows you to play the games on PC in an official manner. Or at least if you purchase individual titles.

But like you said, probably not worth the time or money.

[-] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

Old enough games can be emulated and run just fine. There's already emulators for everything, Sony could build their own and just embed the game inside and it wouldn't be much bigger than most other games.

I think it has more to do with license than technical issues.

[-] Zahille7@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I would love if they brought the Jak & Daxter and Sky Cooper games to PC. Along with the entire Infamous series while we're at it.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Good news! There's a community open source project to port the engine used in Jak and Daxter to PC.

https://opengoal.dev/

Looks like the first two games are mostly playable, with their efforts focused on getting Jak 3 working now.

[-] Zahille7@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Turns out you don't actually need OpenGOAL to play the Jak series if you already have an emulator, but it's like playing the game as if it was actually ported to PC.

And I gotta say Jak 1 looks gorgeous.

[-] Zahille7@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I finally got it installed on my PC. The first one runs flawlessly, and I haven't tried Jak 2 yet.

I also got PCSX2 and the first three Sly Cooper games, Jak 3, Time Splitters, and Superman Returns. I think I'm gonna go and download a bunch of old PS2 games to play

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago

And yet, the games which would make them a fortune will never even be considered. Where's Bloodborne? MGS4? Sony remains dumb.

[-] Baggie@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Bloodborne I could see them saving for a PS6 launch, MGS4 is so extremely in the PS3 architecture that nobody wants to try porting that minefield.

But yeah, they're clearly trying to keep a old business model when it's not working anymore.

[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

I pray the PS6 flops. It has to. They can't keep getting away with it.

[-] Baggie@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago

I could see it. They've been pretty anticonsumer lately, souring the fanbase a touch. The PS4 is still seeing releases, because most games actually don't need the power of a ps5. The technological improvements have been seeing diminishing returns every generation. I've had very few games actually maxing out my base ps5, and frankly I think at this point shit can't look that much better anyway. It's mostly down to art style now.

With all that going on, I'm happy with my ps5 for a bit.

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