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[-] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 116 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Late2TheParty@lemmy.world 90 points 2 weeks ago
[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 weeks ago

How? Like... literally how?

I grow kale and it looks nothing like the plant in the OP. It looks like a regular bunch of kale.

Or is this like "all 6 vegetables come from one main vegetable", kind of like how all citrus fruits comes from citron.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 weeks ago

kind of like how all citrus fruits comes from citron.

This is what happened

[-] reattach@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No, it's cooler than that! All these vegetables are cultivars of the same species (Brassica oleracea). Citrus trees are different species with common origins.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brassica_oleracea https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus

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[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Artificial selection!

If you think that’s amazing - look up what bananas looked like before human cultivation. Basically any fruit or vegetable you eat is the product of centuries of humans carefully selecting what seeds to save and plant.

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[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 weeks ago

Just like dog breeds look very distinct, but cranked up to eleven with horrible deformities. Imagine if we continued to breed chihuahuas to have bigger heads and smaller bodies until they are 90% head. Or breed a breed of hound to be smaller with increasingly bigger ears until it's 90% ears. They would still be dogs of the same species because they can procreate together.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Its exactly like that.

[-] Malgas@beehaw.org 16 points 2 weeks ago

🔫🌼 Always has been.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago

cabbage, to be more accurate

[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 70 points 2 weeks ago
[-] _hovi_@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Always a relevant xkcd, isn't there

[-] don@lemm.ee 49 points 2 weeks ago

And every one fucking delicious

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 41 points 2 weeks ago

People have some hate boner against Brussels sprouts, but damn - if you know how to prepare them, they're delicious.

[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago
[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 17 points 2 weeks ago

Selective breeding does play a role but also how you prepare them. Just like other brassicae if you cook them for too long they start smelling bad, so you want to use high heat and relatively short cooking times.

For example. My go-to approach is to cut them into halves and pan-fry in lard. High fire. People claim it's delicious.

I mean, things fried in lard do usually come out delicious.

[-] Mozes@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

Right, when I was growing up, always steamed or boiled - absolute trash. Just throw them on a pan under the broiler with some oil and salt/pepper chefs kiss

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[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Look, anything pan fried with butter, salt, black pepper, bacon and a little white wine is going to taste great...

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[-] Thelie@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I've had this discussion before, had the "proper way" of preparing them explained to me and made them according to these instructions. Turns out, I just don't like the taste. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago

Individual tastes are a thing, too. At least someone out there is bound to dislike even the most beloved dishes; the thing, for me, is how many people claim to hate Brussels sprouts, even if they deserve some leafy and greasy love.

[-] Psythik@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago

Sliced in half and deep fried—in case anyone was wondering.

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[-] Emmie@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I actually prefer to eat them raw. A cup a day before sleeping. They act as sleeping pills for me

You get used to the taste and learn to enjoy it, same as with beer except they are good for you and increase hair density. It’s a real life equivalent of ent water

[-] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 weeks ago

Wait, but I put mustard on my broccoli...

[-] grue@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago

Yo dawg, I heard you like mustard...

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[-] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

this meme has some truth in it, in that these six vegetables are all brassica oleracea. but, the factoid in the center of the meme is misleading: brassica oleracea can be many things but (despite brassicaceae being "the mustard and cabbage family") brassica oleracea is not typically called "wild mustard plant".

edit: toned down my refutation; i guess maybe it is sometimes 👀 but i think not really

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

Tagged & linked comment. :)

[-] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

Does this mean I can put mustard on things instead of eating all these vegetables?

[-] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

See, I like vegetables!

[-] Etterra@discuss.online 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Except that it's not the wild mustard plant. It's the wild cabbage plant. Wild mustard is totally different genusv and species.

wild cabbage

wild mustard

[-] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

Srsly. What is this bullshit.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 weeks ago

This is news to me, but I was always kind of onto cauliflower just being albino broccoli, so not too surprised there.

[-] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We eat like 2 plants. One is brassica mentioned above.

The other one is nightshade. In the nightshade family we find tomatos, aubergine, tobacco, peppers, physalis, potatoes and of course the extremely toxic bella-donna (deadly nightshade)

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Just a small correction: you missed an "a" in bella-donna (bella donna means "beautiful woman" in Italian)

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[-] match@pawb.social 14 points 2 weeks ago

ancient and medieval europeans went through some shit

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Weird how mustard (the condiment) tastes so good yet the cultivars of this particular species all taste horrible to me.

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[-] tetrachromacy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

mustard on the beat, yo

[-] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago

To all the veggie haters:

Broccoli recipe:

  1. Fry broccoli with paprika and small pieces of meat or tofu in a pan until brown.
  2. Add water and seasonings.
  3. Steam to desired hardness.
  4. Serve with rice or couscous.

Cauliflower recipe:

  1. Make brown butter by heating up butter and adding breadcrumbs to soak it up.
  2. Serve it on enough steamed cauliflower to justify the amount of brown butter you are about to eat.
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[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 9 points 2 weeks ago
[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Even the etymological family is a mess. They all backtrack to Latin caulis stalk, stem, cabbage stem; but even in closely related language varieties they might mean different plant varieties, like

  • Galician, general - col wild kale/cabbage/whatever, collards
  • Galician, south - couva~couve kale
  • Portuguese - couve kale
  • Spanish - col cabbage

...and of course people had to reborrow the word from Latin to refer to stems in general, to make the thing even messier. (e.g. PT "caule" stem)

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, it's wild how many times that root has been reborrowed for different vegetable names

[-] lvxferre@mander.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, it’s wild how many times that root has been reborrowed for different vegetable names

The root is the same, but the stems and leaves are all different!

[-] f5xs_bhw0a@beehaw.org 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

scientific name

uppercase species

not even underlined or italicized

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