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In the note, shared internally and viewed by the New York Times, Brin urges staff working on Google’s Gemini AI projects to put in long hours to help the company lead the race in artificial general intelligence (AGI).

Some have praised Brin’s commitment to pushing the company’s success, but others argue that his approach reflects an outdated and harmful mindset.

“The hustle-centric 60-hour week isn’t productivity—it’s burnout waiting to happen,” wrote workplace mental health educator Catherine Eadie in a post shared by LinkedIn’s news editors.

Others said they feel that hard work is essential for success, with a COO of a business analytics business writing, “Brin is just being honest—successful people have always put in long hours."

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[-] ARotePleaseBob@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

Why? Fuck me, that’s like a 12 hour day over a 5 day week. No-one is doing productive 12 hours day for very long, so he’s basically just arguing for an adult version of fucking daycare here.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 year ago

...or 8.6 hours a day 7 days a week with no days off. There's no way to math this that isn't "fuck you, you don't deserve a life outside of working to replace yourself with AI."

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Or 10 hour days 6 days a week, only so the "responsible" employees can go to church.

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[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 11 points 1 year ago

Specially developers, you're going to spend the first 3 hours of work every day, fixing all the shitty code wrote in the 3 last hours of the preview day.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yep. If you want max productivity from devs, it's salary and ad hoc.

Do your work when the fuck ever. Just get it done.

[-] underwire212@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Well yeah. If you’re at the office that long, you’ll be too tired to do anything else like protest, organize, live life, etc.

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[-] pageflight@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Classic correlation v. causation. The sweet spot for productivity is believing in and wanting to do your work. For some people, this motivates them to spend tons of time working. For some people, this boueys then to high productivity even while exercising great work life balance and avoiding burnout.

Google used to know this, and spend huge amounts of effort and resources on trust, enjoyment, innovation. Now that's something to find at other companies.

[-] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 29 points 1 year ago

I honestly think it's more like 30. If we're all just making numbers up.

[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

60 hours is the sweet spot for maximal control over your employees life with only the normal amount of suicides.

[-] Dvixen@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

Spoken to someone who might work 60 minutes a week.

He can get fucked by his 60 hour work week. Sideways.

[-] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 year ago

At this point, it's an insult to clowns.

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[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

double the salary is also a very sweet spot for productivity

[-] DegenerationIP@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Lol. Yeah. Shut up. Its not. Proven not.

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[-] x00z@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

If you are a CEO, sure. But if you are not then it's quite the opposite.

If only these capitalist pigs could put themselves in the shoes of others.

[-] TheChickenOfDoom@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

What a pile of human garbage.

[-] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 18 points 1 year ago

60/5=12/day 8/day for sleep Let's say it takes me an hour each way to get to and from the office. Maybe 1hr for dinner

Now I have 1 hour/day to do everything else I need to do? How did this guy invent Google?

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You sleep at the office or work 6 or 7 days. People aren't often doing 60 hour weeks by working 12x5 and then 2 off.

Edit: Google even has those sleeping pods!

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[-] Wav_function@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

You don't have staff to clean your house, cook your food, take care of your kids, pay your bills?

What are you some kind of poor?

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Outside of the google office would be a sweet spot for a guillotine.

[-] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 year ago

Last summer there were a bunch of stories reporting findings that companies that experimented with a 4-day work week saw productivity gains over the traditional 5-day, so this billionaire’s opinion sounds out of alignment with reality

[-] klemptor@startrek.website 15 points 1 year ago

Hey Brin, kindly go fuck yourself, you out-of-tpuch ass.

[-] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago

Irony alert: pushing humans harder while building AI to replace them—brilliant strategy, Sergey.

😾

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

It's burnout waiting to happen

So? Then you fire them and hire fresh meat.

Humans are replaceable, no?

/S, of course

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[-] varnia@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

We are slowly shifting to a 4x8=32h work week here. 60h long term has nothing to do with productivity anymore.

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[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Google

---Do most harm---

[-] OmarDontScare@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Well, if Sergey Brin wants to work 60 hour weeks, be my guest. Sounds like a good idea for the CEO class, since they should really justify what they're paid.

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[-] Nunar@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Has there ever been a better call to eat the rich?!

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 12 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry that Sergey Brin apparently doesn't have hobbies or family/friends that care about him, but 60 is still wrong. We have computers and work multipliers and have perfected efficiency... We don't need to spend the majority of our lives toiling anymore! Some would argue against 40, but at least that gives a balanced workday: 8 hours of work, 8 hours of sleep, 8 hours of leisure. And I say all that as someone who actually likes their job...

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Commuting should be included in the 8 hour work day. I shouldn't have to give up some of my leisure time to drive to work.

This would also incentivize denser cities.

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

Did that guy ever work anywhere else?

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

So nice of him to support the abuse of his employees for his personal gain.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 13 points 1 year ago

It's not about productivity. Productivity drops exponentially when people are tired. It's about crushing the human spirit.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Rich asshole says out of touch moronic thing. More at 7.

[-] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Kicking Sergey Brin in the teeth and working 30 hours a week is max productivity.

[-] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Sergi can eat donkey dick.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

"Arbeit macht frei."

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ahh, the typical manager misconception. Nope. Long work hours don't equal high productivity.

But I can understand that misconception, as it takes those people up there many more hours to get a single useful idea compared to those under them who actually do the work and earn the money.

[-] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Does he hate social relationships and his family or something?

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[-] chramies@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Only if it's for two people - 30 hours each!

[-] madjo@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago

As a sufferer of Long Covid, Sergey Brin can suck my ass. Any company can deem themselves lucky if I manage to make 40 a week. There's more to life than work, and it's not like they'll pay you for those extra 20 hours.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Hurry! Before they change president and figure out all the data we stole from everyone during this glorious time!

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

JFC, and with the assholes in the government in collusion with these fuckers, they are likely to be able to make it mandatory.

The 4 day workweek is likely more optimal for humans, at least until we are post-scarcity.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

people like this shouldn't be allowed to finish their sentences on their own terms. it should be cut short by an extreme force.

[-] thingAmaBob@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I thought 6 hours per day were best? Also, where I work, we’ve gone through voluntary overtime, working 60 hour weeks. People start to look like zombies and were more prone to mistakes by week three. It is simply not sustainable.

EDIT: spelling/grammar

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[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 year ago

Hitting Brin in the balls repeatedly would increase my happiness.

[-] twinnie@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

I’d work work 60 hours a week if I was going to get paid the millions they make but I’m not doing that work just to make someone else rich.

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