Luigi has become such an icon and crystallized so many frustrations that I'm hopeful his conviction will finally spark the rebellion this country desperately needs. Hopefully in time before it turns into a fully fledged dictatorship - so, pretty soon.
It’s literally been the only light in the world of darkness for over a decade.
I started the Luigi Mangione “documentary” on HBO (I hesitate to call it that instead of what it is, propaganda)…and I didn’t even get 10 minutes into it and they were going on and on about how the UH CEO was such a good family man with so much good potential.
Gag!! 🤮
Which is funny because everything I’ve heard about him is that he was a huge prick.
I haven’t finished the doc, and I’m not sure I’ll be able to. It’s just offensive intellectually.
If they convict him there's likely to be mass riots.
There's no "if" here, it's "when".
Whether or not Luigi did it, somebody needs to made an example of by the ultra-rich class and the corporate world for murdering one of their own. That person is Luigi.
If Luigi Mangione get killed he will live forever as a martyr of the workers. His name will forever be etched into history and a new wave of revolutions will arrive, a working class united against the rising tide of fascism.
You'd think Trump would be aware of the martyrdom argument. Maybe not.
Trump cannot imagine anyone doing something for reasons that benefit anyone other than themselves.
Killing someone is exactly how you get a really fucking angry crowd who will remember his name seek revenge.
I think there's even a word for it. Let me go ask my friend Marty R.
What comes around goes around Donnyboy. The next president could do the same to you for treason.
Biden had the chance with the backing of the supreme court and their ruling on "official actions" on top of the already strong legal case, but he didn't because the ruling class sticks together no matter how much they talk about "danger to democracy".
Good. They should try to get the death penalty which will put the jury under the maximum pressure to nullify.
I wonder if some of the legal fund can be used for public service announcements to educate the public on jury nullification. IIRC judges don't like to hear that kinda talk in court.
This is so ridiculous. He killed a dude. That's worthy of the death penalty (not in Texas)!? People have done worse to many people, or children, or... and not been sentenced to death.
Even if you're 100% against murder in all circumstances and feel he should be locked up forever, you have to see this is just CEO's exercising their outsized influence to discourage further punishment of the 1% and corporate leaders that prey on Americans...
Murder is legal in self-defense or to save the live of another.
That's how you need to look at this.
Homicide can be justifiable. Murder is a crime.
Semantics
Law.
It's not murder if it's done in self-defense or to save the life of some other innocent person. It's justifiable homicide.
Depends on what country you live in. In Canada that is not a valid reason to kill.
I call bullshit on that. Post the law that makes it legal.
Trump freed 1500 criminals who wanted to kill elected officials in a terrorist-style seige of the capital.
But yeah, go punish a national hero.
Question: Will "The Government's most solemn responsibility is to protect its citizens from abhorrent acts" be on the gates to the concentration camps?
Trump, in an executive order: "The Government's most solemn responsibility is to protect its citizens from abhorrent acts, and my Administration will not tolerate efforts to stymie and eviscerate the laws that authorize capital punishment against those who commit horrible acts of violence against American citizens."
Abhorrent acts like denying over 1/4 of healthcare coverage claims? Abhorrent acts like demanding surgeons scrub out and immediately call back the insurer to justify the surgery that they were in the middle of performing?
No, of course not.
The other side of that coin is that capital punishment doesn't protect anyone from anything. In fact, it puts us all in more danger for a variety or reasons, including:
I only wanted to point out the hypocrisy, but you make a good point:
Where capital punishment exists, people who commit crimes are more likely to escalate to more heinous acts in order to evade capture
I forgot:
And this indirect effect, even when the person sentenced to death is undeniably guilty:
Rich fucks are afraid he might go after them if he gets out of jail one day.
Even moreso, I think they're worried this will normalize violence against their class, so they want to make an example of him. One Luigi can be imprisoned or executed; a thousand Luigis is a bigger problem.
I like the sound of one thousand Luigis
He killed one of the Kings white stags on his lands.
St. Luigi of Hood.
He didn't even kill. He's innocent.
He's innocent until proven guilty. But there does seem to be a strong case that he did kill him.
If so, why is he pleading innocent?
He pled not guilty. You don't plead innocence in court.
He has to prove that he is not guilty of the case brought by the prosecution. That's what not guilty means. He only has to disprove the specifics of the case brought against him.
Its the procetutor's job to prove, it is the defendant's job to disprove.
Pleading not guilty is the right choice. Either his lawyers think he's not guilty, and this plea lets them beat the charges, or he is guilty and this plea delays the inevitable.
If he pled guilty that would skip the main part of the trial and go straight to sentencing. Pleading guilty is rarely a good idea unless you are making a deal for a reduced sentence.
It's all just game theory. It's a 2x2 grid of (actually guilty, actually not guilty) and (plea guilty, plea not guilty). You add up the risks and rewards for each box and usually not guilty is the better choice
Impossible. Luigi and I were white water rafting in Idaho on the day of the murder. Luigi and I love white water rafting.
Nah, you were with his brother, Mario. It's easy to mistake the two. I was with Luigi, he was vacationing in Denmark with me.
No no no. You see, you couldn't have been with Luigi because he and I were horseback riding in Montana at that time.
"I would have liked to have seen Montana."
perhaps Captain Borodin, in a another life. maybe even sometime say oh i dunno in the third arc of that life you'll be a professor and run a failing dig site at Fort Peck Lake, Montana for fossils!
He did see Montana! 🤯
If he's actually put to death, he'll become a martyr. Saint Luigi Mangione. If this doesn't spark a revolution, we're fucking toast. I hate this fucking timeline.
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