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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by Zwiebel@feddit.org to c/youshouldknow@lemmy.world

Gas stoves fill the air in your home with particulate matter (pm), which has been found to increase cancer risk in the long term.

So next time you buy a stove, consider choosing an induction stove.

Btw, gas stoves being better or faster than induction is a myth. They have certain specific advantages, but they are actually slower.

Obligatory Technology Connections video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUywI8YGy0Y

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[-] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

The studies I read, there was no ventilation / exhaust fan. The point was that low income households using these stoves often don’t have proper ventilation and it makes them dangerous. I didn’t find much evidence that using them with proper ventilation is actually a serious problem.

Further, cooking releases all sorts of chemicals from incomplete combustion in the air if something is burning, as well as the toxic chemicals release from nonstick cookware at very high temperatures, so cooking without ventilation is bad for your health would be the message I’d take away. I find most people are completely unaware of the hazard.

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

With proper ventilation you can do everything, you can work with hazardous gases and nuclear materials, if the ventilation is sufficient.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

Radiation ventilation is fun to say

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[-] IMALlama@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Very few residences have proper ventilation. In the US, a microwave above the stove is common. Microwave often do have a fan function, but the vast majority don't vent outdoors. I doubt that running air through a very thin filter will do much good.

[-] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Even charcoal grills inside are fine with proper ventilation. So you're right, but your also not saying very much.

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah I'm not sure what the purpose of the comment was. To convince people to continue using gas on the off chance it won't increase cancer risk? That's not a compelling reason to use gas. It might not kill me.

[-] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago

Induction is the best, I'll never go back

[-] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Induction is best in theory, however in practice it's unfortunately often paired with these shitty buttonless capacitive controls that are harder to decipher that hieroglyphics as well as """smart""" features

They do still sell induction stoves with classic dumb buttons but they are either hard to come buy or aimed at professional chefs, which instantly adds two zeros to their price

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[-] Valorie12@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

YSK: Everything causes cancer. Drinking water causes cancer. Living causes cancer.

[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Appliance repairman here. What I tell my clients about gas in general is that: 1. When natural gas burns it create CO. 2. There is a none zero chance the thing can blow up.

Electric cooking appliances have an absolute zero chance of either of these two things happening.

I try to get people to switch to electric for these reasons some just like the aesthetic of cooking on gas.

[-] Emmie@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

yeah blah blah blah but honestly.. we are humans, we do crazy shit daily like driving 200 kph in a metal can while blasting rave or metal music. If something goes out in flames just say that new years eve came in early - if you are still alive. Life isn't for the faint of heart for sure

[-] neomachino@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago

I absolutely hate that I have a gas stove and water heater mainly for reason 2. It fills me with pure anxiety.

I know there's a relatively small chance, but whenever we're turning the corner and I see the house is still there it's a huge relief. In the next year or two we should be able to put out the money to put in outlets and get rid of gas.

I do almost everything in my house but the 2 things I won't touch are electric and gas.

[-] lonerangers1@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

heatpump water heaters are looking good. Super easy to install. No venting needed and they run on 120v.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I love my heat pump water heater because it cools down the room it's in to root cellar temperatures perfect for storing things like potatoes and pumpkins

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[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

the maillard reaction causes cancer. I'm still not boiling my beef.

[-] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Photons cause cancer so I guess I may as well do nothing at all.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Since this is the stove thread:

I had a pot of salt water overflow from boiling on a electric stove and now there is this tough ring of residue around the burner caked on and it won't scrub off. Is using a razor blade to scrape it off really the only option?

I'm worried I will scratch the stove top and the landleech will have an excuse to steal my security deposit.

Edit: thank you all for your helpful advice

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

One thing I like about gas stoves is the ones with sealed burners are a hell of a lot easier to get clean-looking than the glass tops of electric stoves. They get nasty so quick I prefer the old-style coil ones.

For your problem I'd try soaking a paper towel in CLR cleaner. It's probably lime from the water and not salt.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago

BarTenders friend is really the best for everything in the kitchen, but leaving some CLR on it overnight should break it down enough to clean up with a warm sponge. Calcium is probably the white stuff.

[-] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 months ago

Bartender's Friend or Pink Stuff should take it right off.

[-] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 months ago

*Bar Keepers Friend

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Magic eraser might be worth a shot. Melamine foam is the generic name for it and you can get a ton of it cheap. It destroys stains easily. Even if it doesn't handle the burner stains I highly recommend it for cleaning around the house anyway.

[-] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

as long as you're careful, it will be fine. been using a razorblade on them my whole life

[-] 12newguy@mander.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

I've used a razor for really stuck on bits on our glass top stove, but this cleaner also seems to do quite well: https://weiman.com/glass-cooktop-cleaner-polish

For the razor, keep it at a shallow angle (I tend to go around 20 or 30 degrees above the stovetop), and keep a small amount of water on the surface. I usually have a damp rag that I wipe the razor and stovetop with occasionally during the scraping process, to remove the small pieces that come off.

Also, if you are nervous about damaging the stovetop itself, maybe try something only lightly abrasive and warm water, and let the water work it's magic. (I see you have already tried this, so maybe that isn't helpful :/ ) From a chemistry perspective, salt water shouldn't exactly leave behind an insoluble residue, but IDK what else was cooking in the water.

[-] Baguette@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

I legit used car polish once to clean my electric glass stovetop

Works fine as long as you work it by hand and wipe the residue off with a wet rag

[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

Nothing stopping you from using diluted lye / oven cleaner and wiping it off, just be very sure you take the necessary precautions. Do not breathe that shit in or let it get on your skin.

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[-] grandel@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

I didnt watch the video yet but do you have any estimates on how much pm is released? Where I live the air contains about 50 mikrograms per cubic meter and I'd like to know which is unhealthier: using a gas stove without ventilation or going outside and breathing fresh air

[-] interested_party@lemmy.org 1 points 3 months ago
[-] troed@fedia.io 0 points 4 months ago

idk - there should be some very clear cancer statistics to back up such a claim between countries like Sweden (<1% gas stoves, all are electric) vs other countries then.

[-] ilega_dh@feddit.nl 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

One cause of cancer like this probably won’t be visible on a national scale, too many other factors come into play that will muddy the data

However, it’s not “idk”, the current science on gas stoves being bad for your health is quite clear. Not just cancer, but also for other lung-related issues like asthma: https://www.cancercenter.com/community/blog/2024/09/are-gas-stoves-bad-for-your-health

[-] troed@fedia.io 1 points 4 months ago

You're right - the report they link to here (Table 2 is good) makes that quite clear.

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.est.2c09289

[-] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 months ago

Yes, but...

Cooking itself also does this. If you are searing or frying that will also release dangerous particulates. Make sure you have and use a vent hood that vents outside the living space when you cook regardless of fuel.

I can say from personal experience of using every kind of home stove, that gas is both the worst and slowest. Boiling water for my morning coffee is fastest on induction, which takes about half the time as resistive or radiant electric, and gas takes nearly three times longer than that.

Though it might just be the american style of burner that directs the flame away from the center of the pan. I've not yet tried any other kind.

[-] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

It probably has to do with the type of burner I'm going to guess.

We've had both induction and electric stoves for our whole lives. And the home we recently moved into has a fancy dancy natural gas stove with star shaped burners.

It is night and day compared to anything else we've used before, water boils so much faster, I can actually sear a pen full of vegetables now instead of just making them mushy.

Honestly I love it. I just wish the hood wasn't so shitty and actually had a hood to capture all of the output from the stove.

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Check and see if you need to change the filter in the hood.

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