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submitted 1 week ago by misk@sopuli.xyz to c/games@sh.itjust.works

One of the biggest issues that's plagued the Nintendo Switch since its launch in 2017 is stick drift. In fact, Nintendo faced several lawsuits as a result of the issue, with an ex-repair supervisor previously stating that the workload to fix drifting Joy-Con was "very stressful".

Now, while we can acknowledge that Nintendo has undoubtedly been working hard behind the scenes to mitigate the issue for the upcoming Switch 2, we're nevertheless disheartened to confirm that the Joy-Con 2's joysticks will not be Hall Effect.

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[-] 01011@monero.town 4 points 6 days ago

Another reason why the emulation experience is so much better.

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 113 points 1 week ago

The fact that they dodged questions of durability and did nothing to reassure says that they're probably identical and Nintendo just enjoys the revenue it gets from people buying more joycons.

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

Just FYI, getting them repaired is 100% free. It was their part of a class action lawsuit. You make a report, print out the label, ship it and wait.

[-] Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org 29 points 1 week ago

This doesn't hold true for every country though. So a lot of people are better off buying some third party controller or not giving any money to Nintendo at all.

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

That's fair. I forget about my US centric mindset at times.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 week ago

Just for reference in case someone needs it, Nintendo is "offering" free joycon replacements in North and South America, most of Europe (EU+EFTA+UK), Australia, and New Zealand.

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[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Can confirm I did it like 3 times before I just started installing 3rd party Hall effect switches.

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

The bitch of it is waiting for them to get back or spending $80 on a backup pair while you wait.

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[-] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago

They raised prices a ton, and they didn't even switch to the better sensor type that would fix such a persistent issue? Why?

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 46 points 1 week ago

They decided to use joycons to nickel and dime their customers.

[-] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

same company that made a system that could always wirelessly pair with bluetooth headsets/ear buds but didn't enable that function for 4 YEARS then randomly dropped a software update activating that feature. That will always blow my mind.

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Enabling that BT connection was a mistake that Nintendo made under pressure tbh. Switch doesn’t support low latency audio of any sort so that feature is useless imo.

[-] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

I've used it in car rides and its not that bad. its not amazing, but better than no sound.

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 week ago

I’d rather buy $5 headphones at a train station shop than to use BT but I envy people less sensitive to latency because I did that and those headphones sucked XD

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[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 26 points 1 week ago

Nintendo hates their customers and fans. Or at the very least view them with disdain and contempt.

I thought this was universally known and accepted?

[-] Voyajer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Nope, have a goofy mouse mode that will be used in exactly 4 games.

[-] CallateCoyote@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

The goofy mouse mode is honestly the only thing about the Switch 2 that reminds me of the old Nintendo, adding new input methods to new hardware. Even if it has limited support, it will be a very good thing for certain experiences like shooters, strategy games, Pikmin, and Mario Maker.

[-] entwine413@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

Because they're a shit company

[-] softcat@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

Revenue stream

[-] missingno@fedia.io 46 points 1 week ago

FWIW, Hall Effect isn't the only way to prevent drift, they could be using some other tech.

But they really gotta clarify what they are doing about it then.

[-] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The pentiometer joysticks were fine, its just manufacturers all cheaped out and produce inferior ones now. Its a win win for them, cheaper to produce and you buy more when they break! Same damn thing happened with mouse buttons.

[-] simple@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago

And also the joycon already has strong magnets inside of it that would probably intefere with hall effect sticks. It's not a silver bullet.

[-] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That’s like saying earths magnetic field can mess up the sensors.

The Hall effect sensor could be calibrated to ignore the magnets holding the joycons. They’re stationary magnets so they could literally just calculate their effect on the Hall effect sensor

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[-] the_q@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago

Nintendo really is the Apple of gaming.

[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Maybe if Apple sued the pants off all their biggest fans...

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[-] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago
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[-] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Console gaming is nuts to me, just a bottomless money pit

[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Exactly, People could use all that money and just get a computer

[-] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

That’s what I did around 2012 and ditched consoles ever since and have no regrets. Gaming on a PC is just so much better in every fucking way

[-] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago

You spend 2k on the PC instead of 600 for the console, but you save all that by then not having to pay double for internet, 90 bucks for a game and whatever much the licenced peripherals cost

[-] monke@lemmy.cafe 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

At the time I bought my Xbox Series X, an equivalent PC cost 3 times more in my country (India). Sure, i get the pros of owning a PC. But if you're someone like me who doesn't play more than 3-4 games (and almost always story driven single player ones) in a year and already has a laptop for work/personal use, buying a PC is just dumb.

The only people who should be buying a PC imo are

  1. Those who will use the powerful compute for purposes other than just gaming
  2. Those who buy a ton of games as games are typically cheaper on PC and they might end up spending less in the PC ecosystem despite the significant upfront costs
  3. People who want the best performance and have the money to spare.

Fuck Nintendo though. I will never buy anything they sell

[-] slimerancher@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Nintendo filed that patent about joysticks that wouldn't get drift, like Hall Effect, but some other tech without magnets (IIRC), I was hoping we may see it in Switch 2. Seems like either it wasn't ready yet, or it was just one of the random patents companies regularly file.

[-] SculptusPoe@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

They will wait a few months and then sell the premium joycons at twice the price of regular joycons.

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[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Yeah I am done with the Mario console.

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[-] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 13 points 1 week ago

The worst thing about the switch is the pricing of their games, stick drift and the lack of frames. Glad they improved... One thing?

[-] w8ghT@lemy.nl 11 points 1 week ago

Not surprised, NintenDON'T is all about pure profit now. One can feel the uninspired releases stemming from the Switch/Switch 2 in terms of quality and care. The 3DS, Wii U was their last good releases.

[-] 01011@monero.town 1 points 6 days ago

The Wii U library has some real gems that were ported to the Switch.

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 12 points 1 week ago

The Wii U doesn't get love but it sure was interesting and an upgrade beyond just resolution.
The 3DS line was inspired. Practically a smartphone in an era where they weren't yet everywhere.

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago

The Wii U was the real Switch 1

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[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 week ago

I think that tunnel magneto-resistance (TMR) are more favored for 3rd-party sticks. They've significant advantages over Hall Effect sensors in latency, power consumption, and, apparently, resolution. Plus, they operate on more similar electrical principles to the traditional pot-based sticks, so, they require less effort to design around.

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