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[-] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But the USA uses these groups to steal Syria's oil, which played a large part in the economic conditions that lead to the downfall of the Syrian state. Such a reality cannot be waved away.

Attempts to portray the SDF/SDC as a "Kurdish" administration or armed group, minimising the majority Arab role in the region

Didn't the SDF just retreat from Deir ez-Zor, initially taking it after the SAA abandoned their positions there, because the people of Deir ez-Zor did not want to be under their governance, and want to be under the governance of whoever controls Damascus? There were mass protests against them in the city.

Of course any terrorist apologa for HTS/SNA, or any Turkish supremacist positions, support for the Turkish bombing campaign against the SDF, and any anti Kurdish rhetoric, should not be tolerated. But realities cannot be ignored. The SDF played a part in the collapse of the Syrian state by allying with the United States. I have a feeling that the United States will abandon them soon (as they have done previously), because from a US perspective, their role has been fulfilled, to help collapse the state of Syria.

"Assad's shitty regime" was the only thing preventing what has happened over the past 72 hours, a mass Israeli bombing campaign, the largest in their history, which has eliminated the military and scientific capabilities of the Syrian state, with over 400 strikes in the last 72 hours, and an Israeli invasion of southern Syria, with Israeli troops 20km from Damascus. Without the SAA's integrated air defence system being operational, Israel has been able to bomb Syria freely in a way that was never possible beforehand. Assad's regime also prevented the executions of minority groups by ISIS ideologues, something that has been happening at a high rates since the fall of the government. Yes Assad was a tinpot dictator in many ways, with him and his brother doing terrible things, but this was better than the alternative, which has happened now, and will continue to happen. Israel is not going to stop until someone stops them, and HTS/SNA will continue with their jihadist-salafist ISIS like behaviour until someone stops them. In the past that was the SAA with Russian, Hezbollah and Iranian support, but that no longer exists. And the equipment they used to do that no longer exists for the new Syrian state either, Israel has destroyed it. I support the SDF in their fights against the SNA and Turkey, but I feel that the outcome of such, with the SDF retreating over the past few days, is not looking positive.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Didn't the SDF just retreat from Deir ez-Zor, initially taking it after the SAA abandoned their positions there, because the people of Deir ez-Zor did not want to be under their governance, and want to be under the governance of whoever controls Damascus? There were mass protests against them in the city

it's difficult to gauge the 'consent' in like a week of actually being there, some people protested but did they represent a majority opinion? who knows. the big reason to retreat was israel destroying the leftover SAA defenses so they'd be fucked when the FSA? or whoever show up, whereas they've got an established and intact defensive line on the other side of the river.

incidentally israel blowing SAA equipment in SDF or recently occupied SDF territory is a strong indication israel is not actually considering the SDF an ally or proxy

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