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[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 190 points 1 week ago

It’s also orange because mammals can’t produce green pigments, so orange is the next best thing if your prey is red-green colorblind.

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 105 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Our primary outer protein is basically keratin, which can be tinted orange(carotene), beige (collagen) or brown/black (melanin).

The green pigment is a byproduct of bilirubin catabolism, which we don't have because we use a different pathway to metabolize and recycle it.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 week ago
[-] Dicska@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago
[-] dalekcaan@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Not particularly, just doesn't have hooves.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

the green pigment? What green pigment?

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

For reptiles and other stuff, we don't have those.

[-] Umbrias@beehaw.org 15 points 1 week ago

more accurately, orange pigments are readily available. Nothing fundamentally stops mammals (or anything else) from developing a green. Note for example many animals have green eyes.

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago

From what I understand green eyes are a bit weird as far as coloration goes, as they look green due to the way light is interacting with small amounts of melanin in the iris (the same pigment that makes eyes brown) rather than due to green pigment. I’m not sure that could be replicated in fur vs in a liquid environment like with the eye.

Birds mimic green colored pigments with iridescence (except turacos, they have green pigments for real) in their feathers, but I’m not sure that’s something mammals can do structurally in fur the way birds can in feathers.

[-] Umbrias@beehaw.org 6 points 1 week ago

Both blue and green eyes in humans and blues and many greens in vertebrates are structural, yeah. Yes the structural coloring could be recreated in fur or skin. (noting that many mammals do structural IR effects in their fur, famously polar bears)

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago

I wish I could find the sources from when I was reading about this months ago, it was more about evolution in terms of things that can happen and not ‘random’ mutations, and one of the examples was tigers with orange fur instead of green. It’s not physically impossible to have structural coloring (although the fact there are no green mammals suggests a strong inhibition somewhere along the line), but you first have to have the genetic and molecular groundwork laid to allow it to happen. Ex: it’s not physically impossible for animals to manufacture their own vitamin C, but humans just can’t do it because we don’t have the necessary molecular pathways other animals use. I hope that makes sense for what I’m trying to get at.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

... So how do green eyes work?

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago
[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Awesome thanks!

Neat to learn mammals are normally green due to genetic structures.

So green hair and fur could never happen naturally.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The color of your eyes doesn't have anything to do with the cones and rods that pick up the light reflected off of objects.

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I mean the pigment of the iris.

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