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[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 163 points 1 week ago

This is also why hunting vests are bright orange. Easy for humans to spot, and deer get confused by there being a fucking tiger loose in New England.

[-] Deepus@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

I always wondered about that, thanks.

[-] Lyrl@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago

Apparently pink works as well, if a hunter wants a second color vest

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 week ago

That works on the same principle, except the deer thinks you're a panther.

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[-] VivianRixia@piefed.social 88 points 1 week ago

So was it just random that their fur is orange and not green? As both would help hunt prey just as well. Or is the advantage of being orange, that it wards away other tigers and predators that might otherwise muscle into its territory and create conflict.

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 190 points 1 week ago

It’s also orange because mammals can’t produce green pigments, so orange is the next best thing if your prey is red-green colorblind.

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 105 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Our primary outer protein is basically keratin, which can be tinted orange(carotene), beige (collagen) or brown/black (melanin).

The green pigment is a byproduct of bilirubin catabolism, which we don't have because we use a different pathway to metabolize and recycle it.

[-] Umbrias@beehaw.org 15 points 1 week ago

more accurately, orange pigments are readily available. Nothing fundamentally stops mammals (or anything else) from developing a green. Note for example many animals have green eyes.

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago

From what I understand green eyes are a bit weird as far as coloration goes, as they look green due to the way light is interacting with small amounts of melanin in the iris (the same pigment that makes eyes brown) rather than due to green pigment. I’m not sure that could be replicated in fur vs in a liquid environment like with the eye.

Birds mimic green colored pigments with iridescence (except turacos, they have green pigments for real) in their feathers, but I’m not sure that’s something mammals can do structurally in fur the way birds can in feathers.

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[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is probably an example of natural evolution/selection where tigers that had slowly evolved more orange in their fur naturally, were able to feed more. This in turn meant the orange triat in their genes was passed on more frequently and became more dominant in the population.

In a sense it was probably a "random" mutation, but when it became useful and effective it was passed down quicker.

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 week ago

This is how evolution works. People often imagine some sort of logical system to it, but it really is just random mutations all over, with the advantageous ones propagating. There were probably a bunch of tigers with various odd colors or patterns at some point due to random mutations, but those evidently were less useful for hunting and reproducing than how they look now, so they died out in competition with the known variants.

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[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

Are there any green animals that aren't reptiles, birds or insects? That might be a clue.

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[-] bonsai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 88 points 1 week ago

Meanwhile my colorblind ass:

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 66 points 1 week ago

Do tigers themselves see themselves as orange, or are they genuinely surprised when humans easily spot them hiding in the grass?

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 week ago

My cats are surprised both by me seeing them sitting on an empty floor, and by other cats who they didn't see sitting on the floor.

So I can only conclude the answer is semi-perpetual amazement.

They do not, like almost all mammals they are dichromatic! It's mostly us and some primates that can see in three wavelengths. Although interestingly enough, fish and birds can see in four wavelengths. Makes me wonder if that contributed to smaller cats being mostly gray and black, to just reduce as much light as possible?

[-] goodwipe@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 week ago

The green image of the tiger is terrifying. You wouldn't see it until it's eyes or teeth were baring down on you in a lush green forest. Thankfully humans weren't it's main prey and therefore it likely evolved to appear orange instead...

[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Umm, I've met tigers.

You need to explain to them that we're not prey, but they haven't figured it out yet.

[-] tja@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago

I think the key word is "main".

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago

fish are friends not food.

[-] JillyB@beehaw.org 26 points 1 week ago

I'm colorblind and the images are nearly identical. Good thing I'm not in tiger habitats very often.

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[-] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

Thank you, evolution, for allowing me to see orange so I can get an head start and outrun a mother fucking tiger!

[-] jwt@programming.dev 32 points 1 week ago

outrun a mother fucking tiger

You only need to outrun your travelbuddy.

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[-] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

Tigers are generally crepuscular which means they’re most active around dawn or dusk, when the sun is very low in the sky. Their orange fur does not stand out so well when everything looks orange under the golden light of dawn.

[-] Acamon@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

Is that why cats can be so ginger and still good hunters? My orange stands out so much in the garden, but maybe to dichromatic mice he's super stealthy?

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[-] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 28 points 1 week ago

Wouldn't a mutation in the deer sight to see orange be vastly evolutionary beneficial?

[-] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago

Only in areas with tigers, and then it would only express itself enough if there were enough evolutionary pressure exclusively on that survival tactic.

As long as other causes of death happen to deer in tiger territories and as long as speed remains a good survival strategy, minor mutations that would only provide an advantage in extreme specific scenarios like a tiger stalking them wouldn't have a chance to be spread.

There's also a whole host of additional brain power that needs to be dedicated to more complex colour blending and processing, and that may add enough delay to offset any potential gain in recognizing a threat.

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[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Do the tigers know they are orange?

[-] MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Desperately need me a community just for tiger facts like this and pictures of tigers. Greatest of the Big Cats

[-] pseudo@jlai.lu 2 points 6 days ago

Feel free to open !bigcats or !tiger I'll be your first follower.

[-] MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I wish lol. I don't have enough time to manage a community though. if someone else made one though i'd follow it instantly

[-] pseudo@jlai.lu 2 points 4 days ago

I vaguely remember someone mentioning a community to give your community ideas to who may want to implement it... I forgot the name.

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[-] MECHAGODZILLA2@midwest.social 17 points 1 week ago

Oooh I just thought nature was fucking stupid

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