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How about in the context of Trump doing it so that he could spend his time banging more chicks?
sex sounds like a less genocidal activity than going to vietnam but idk who can really say
In the context of deciding not to go overseas to murder people fighting a war of national liberation.
i don't really care why Trump dodged the draft, but it's better he did that than drop agent orange over Vietnam
It's far more likely that he would have died there, if he had gone.
Rich failsons tended to be given safe and cushy posts, and even beyond that most American soldiers in Vietnam survived. Literally no one should join the US military ever. It is always a worse thing to do than not doing it is.
Hypocrisy literally does not matter, GOP hogs do not have shame or moral beliefs, they do not have principles, they are literally just ravening demons wearing human skin who subsist on suffering and death and who do not perceive material reality or remember what they had for breakfast this morning. You're not owning them by accusing them of at one point doing the less bad thing when moral consistency would suggest they should have done the more evil thing which they advocate for, because they don't care, literally no one cares.
I don't think you understand how "the draft" worked. You make it sound like folks had a choice.
Not everyone was rich enough to buy themselves a pass. So it was either go to jail, or skip the country...which was also a luxury not everyone could afford.
Shaming soldiers for being conscripted into a war none of them wanted to be in, is also not the own you think it is. Having the privilege of buying a pass, when most people don't have that option, is nothing to celebrate.
Maybe I'm built different but I would simply go to jail rather than participate in a genocide.
If you think that potential consequences (a stint in jail) is worse than actively murdering people than you are simply selfish.
Also, of the over half a million draft offenders, only 3000 were ever sent to jail for it.
Ah, so now it's about which option is more fun, not more moral? And in your opinion, the option to go murder a bunch of random people in Vietnam is the more fun, and therefor more correct option?
i mean its either war under an imperial flag or war under a gang's banner. what's the difference? At least in prison you aren't helping empire.
Is this a prison SA reference? Fuck off with that shit.
Of course they had a choice. They could choose to become violent enforcers of the empire's will, or suffer state violence a thousand times milder than what they were being asked to commit. It's not like they were being black bagged and dragged to the front to be thrown into a meatgrinder without training or equipment, like Ukraine has been doing. They were told "go and murder for our vanity, for our dominion over all things, or sit in this box for a few years" and they chose to go do violence and bring horror and death to innocent people on the other side of the world instead of sitting in a cage for a few years.
Lol! So, you think prison is "mild"? Wow.
They said it's 1000x milder than having your village genocided.
Relative to being on the receiving end of Agent Orange or American helicopters
That's what you took away.
Draft dodging isn't as hard as you think it is. Just have kids, go to grad school, join the National Guard (you will be in the military, but you won't be deployed or really do anything), drink a bottle of soy sauce right before your medical, say you're gay, make some track marks or sh scars, get fat, join the clergy, work in the mines, work in a defense plant, or just listen to Phil Ochs.
if you choose to kill foreigners instead of taking 2 years in prison then you're either a piece of shit or a coward
fuck the yankee wehrmacht
If we're talking about probabilities here, his McDonald's based diet probably should have killed him already but he seems to be still kicking somehow 🙄
We have to go back in time to stop the Supersize Me movie
His insides have been pickled by Big Mac sauce