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Obligatory 'lore dump' on the word lollapalooza:
That word was a common slang term in the 1930s/40s American lingo that meant... essentially a very raucous, lively party.
Note/Rant on the meaning of this term
The current merriam webster and dictionary.com definitions of this term meaning 'an outstanding or exceptional or extreme thing' are wrong, they are too broad.
While historical usage varied, it almost always appeared as a noun describing a gathering of many people, one that was so lively or spectacular that you would be exhausted after attending it.
When it did not appear as a noun describing a lively, possibly also 'star-studded' or extravagant, party, it appeared as a term for some kind of action that would cause you to be bamboozled, discombobulated... similar to 'that was a real humdinger of a blahblah' or 'that blahblah was a real doozy'... which ties into the effects of having been through the 'raucous party' meaning of lolapalooza.
So... in WW2, in the Pacific theatre... many US Marines were often engaged in brutal, jungle combat, often at night, and they adopted a system of basically verbal identification challenge checks if they noticed someone creeping up on their foxholes at night.
An example of this system used in the European theatre, I believe by the 101st and 82nd airborne, was the challenge 'Thunder!' to which the correct response was 'Flash!'.
In the Pacific theatre... the Marines adopted a challenge / response system... where the correct response was 'Lolapalooza'...
Because native born Japanese speakers are taught a phoneme that is roughly in between and 'r' and an 'l' ... and they very often struggle to say 'Lolapalooza' without a very noticable accent, unless they've also spent a good deal of time learning spoken English (or some other language with distinct 'l' and 'r' phonemes), which very few Japanese did in the 1940s.
::: spoiler racist and nsfw historical example of / evidence for this
https://www.ep.tc/howtospotajap/howto06.html
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Now, some people will say this is a total myth, others will say it is not.
My Grandpa who served in the Pacific Theatre during WW2 told me it did happen, though he was Navy and not a Marine... but the other stories about this I've always heard that say it did happen, they all say it happened with the Marines.
My Grandpa is also another source for what 'lolapalooza' actually means.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth
I’ve heard “squirrel” was used to trap Germans.
If you've ever heard Germans try to pronounce "squirrel", it's hilarious. I've known many extremely bilingual Germans who couldn't pronounce it at all. It came out sounding roughly like "squall", or they'd over-pronounce the "r" and it would be "squi-rall"
Sqverrrrl.
Oh yeah, I forgot about how they add a "v" sound to it.
I wonder if any of the Axis even bothered to have such a system to check for Americans.
"Bawn-jehr-no"
I speak Italian first-best.
I'm still puzzled by the idea of what mess this war was if at times you had someone still not clearly identifiable, but that close you can do a sheboleth check on them, and that at any moment you or the other could be shot dead.
Also, the current conflict of Russia vs Ukraine seems to invent ukrainian 'паляница' as a check, but as I had no connection to actual ukrainians and their UAF, I can't say if that's not entirely localized to the internet.
Have you ever been to a very dense jungle or forest... at midnight?
Ok, now, drop mortar and naval artillery shells all over it.
For weeks, or months.
The holes this creates are commonly used by both sides as cover and concealment.
Also, its often raining, sometimes quite heavily, such that these holes will up with water, and you are thus soaking wet.
Ok, now, add in pillboxes and bunkers, as well as a few spiderwebs of underground tunnel networks, many of which have concealed entrances.
You do not have a phone. GPS does not exist.
You might have a map, which is out of date, and you might have a compass, if you didn't drop or break it.
A radio is either something stationary, or is the size and weight of approximately, somewhat less than a miniature refrigerator, and one bullet or good piece of shrapnel will take it out of commission.
Ok, now, you and all your buddies are either half starving or actually starving, beyond exhausted, getting maybe an average of 2 to 4 hours of sleep, and you, and the enemy, are covered in dirt, blood and grime.
Also, you and everyone else may or may not have malaria, or some other fun disease, so add shit and vomit to the mix of what everyone is covered in.
Ok! Enjoy your 2 to 8 week long camping trip from hell, in these conditions... also, kill everyone that is trying to kill you, soldier.
It's weird foot soldiers kept killing each other.
It's not weird we had 'frag' as a verb from the Vietnam war.
Look at how they suppressed the christmas truce.
It does make sense to use a phoneme the enemy dialect lacks as a verbal check. Makes me wonder if there were any in the Pacific Theatre that decided for "Lick" and "Lollipop".