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I just checked out r/conservative to gauge their temperature and the whole front page is Epstein with 90% of the posts condemning Trump and speculating on his complicity. This is a sub that has been OVERWHELMINGLY defensive of Trump on every other issue, no matter how nakedly corrupt. The story is only growing by the day and it may very well be what implodes MAGA.
I'm also on the "they're going to forgot about this" train but if there's anything that could sink him, this would be it.
It's wild though because honestly I think Blue MAGA would absolutely not revolt against the Democrats, if they were in a position like this.
The right wing knows how to discipline their elected officials.
Because "it's a right wing hoax" is all blueMAGA needs to hear lol
A right wing RUSSIAN hoax.
"Adult in the room" discourse
Why now though? Trump has been linked to Epstein for years
last time around he just ignored it and they had the leeway to convince themselves it was The Deep State preventing the release
this time around they made too big of a show about "we're gonna release the logs" and then suddenly did a 180, it's too obviously a coverup this time
Because of this "investigation" turning up "nothing" he's gotta say something about it and since he wants it buried this is where it's going
His base hasn't cared because this is literally why qanon was a thing- it was all about secret agent Trump taking on the narco pedo cabal, or at least making enough people believe that shit about him. Turns out i guess there's a limit to what credulous morons will reconcile in terms of glaring hypocrisies and Trump saying "yeah the pedo cabal is a left wing conspiracy" is incompatible with this qanon cult Trump fetish that's been created
I imagine the accelerated pace of material conditions worsening even for his base is probably a factor in things that once held now giving. Many of his poorer supporters have lost medicaid, and many of his petit boug supporters are having their businesses ruined by tariffs. Even if they can't stop cheering for regressive face-eating leopard policies, they feel let down. I guess the failure to spin this episode well was the final straw for many.
Yes but there was always some plausible deniability before. Trump now trying to sweep the whole thing other the rug makes him seem more and more guilty.
I really hope you’re right. But I’m running low on hope, so.
Also, I for one will NEVER forgive them for Trump anyway, so, to hell with all these calls lately for grace and unity for MAGA refugees who seek redemption after having seen the light. Way too late motherfuckers.