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Israeli kids stomping on food meant for Gazans
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I genuinely don’t know what to do about Israel even if we could skip to the “they’ve been stopped” point.
Like, these children should clearly be taken from their parents. And probably another half a million Israeli kids like them. The parents clearly can’t be allowed to raise them or they’ll instill evil beliefs in them. How do you deal with this problem at scale?
You honestly can't. When the Zionist entity falls, most Zionists with means will flee (back) to other settler colonies like the US where they'll form revanchist communities that do nothing but conspire to overthrow the Republic of Palestine and bring back the Zionist entity. Many Zionists who are too poor to flee the Zionist entity will be fifth columns embedded within Palestine waiting for the signal from those revanchist communities to bring the Republic of Palestine back. That's the reality.
And while every member of the Axis of Resistance has repeatedly and clearly delineate the difference between Judaism and Zionism, I don't think many Palestinians, especially what has happened since Oct 7th, will give Jews the same courtesy. This is also another reality that people will have to face.
It's not just former Israelis who will have to be reeducated. There will be many Palestinians who have lost their entire 200+ extended families to IOF bombs and they will take their grief out on a convenient target if people do not intervene. It doesn't take a wild guess to identity what that target would be.
Going off historical precedent, you don't. But if you ask me you'd need a reeducation program for the parents and to have that same reeducation baked into their schooling system. Realistically, the zionists who can leave will go home and hopefully be diluted or shunned by the population in their home country.
genuinely not sure if you can re-educate the adults in this situation. the kids sure, but how do you walk away from gleefully supporting genocide?
I wish I knew but I have to believe it is possible. We can't just lock them all up or put them in a pit. As much as it might feel just to do so
The Soviets were pretty successful at denazifying Eastern Germany. It was an ugly process that took A long time and history proves it was incomplete, but we do have precedent for de-radicalizing a population.
How you do that, considering the material conditions that currently exist? I have no idea. How you convince the gulf monarchies to sign on to that process, when they're currently happy to use Israel to further their own domestic agendas? How do you do this without it turning into yet another genocide? How do you convince the average western cracker to turn against Zionism without it turning into straight-up anti-Semitism? How do you get the millions of Christian zionists to give up their apocalyptic agenda? How do you get a rabidly islamophobic West to treat brown people like human beings?
I don't know how you fix this problem. All I know is that it's going to get worse, before there is any chance of it ever getting better.
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No they weren't, east Germany has a lot of good leftists now but also a lot of real Nazis
No amount of denazification of a region can be magically permanent, especially when said region is ruled by nazism from elsewhere.
Ok? I'm not blaming the ussr or the ddr for this at all. But they didn't succeed even at the time. The Nazis succeeded in just surviving long enough underground until they were free to surface again and the east was and remains their biggest stronghold.
You may notice there is also no Soviet union now. Hard to stop em when you don't exist.
The answer to all those questions is work to destroy American hegemony
Nah fuck em. 2 years of a livestreamed genocide. These people are worse than nazis. Good riddance
This might sound bad but it really doesn't take too much brainwashing or indoctrination for a relatively normal person to support genocide. Group dynamics can make normal people otherwise capable of empathy go along with absurd evil. Israeli society currently needs its people to be the absolute worst version of themselves to continue existing, it needs everyone to reaffirm each other's ideology of racial supremacy and their views of Palestinians as subhumans.
I don't think Israeli society can be rehabilitated as a whole, but if you were to reintegrate them into a society not currently in a state of genocidal psychosis, they'd probably just be "normal" racist assholes like everywhere else in the West. Some of them would probably be libs, even. To clarify, this is not to absolve anyone of guilt or responsibility, I just think you don't think you have to be brainwashed or a psychopath to commit horrific acts of evil.
That's what brainwashing is tho
What assortedbiscuits said is probably what will happen, but if not there would need to be a Xinjiang style deradicalization campaign, including banning all radicalized bastardizations of Judaism, a complete overhaul of all education and forced re education for adults, and for all the truly committed Zionists they will probably rot in prison because they are too dangerous to the public and would refuse to give up their ideological convictions. This is what would need to happen pretty much anywhere that fascists and other radicalized people exist until a better model of deradicalization is invented