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"Democrats talking about how they totally have to keep backing a genocide, bombing kids, torturing innocent people, screwing over their voter-base, voting the way their rich donors tell them to, in order to win elections"
"Trans people in the US who are 1 electoral loss away from being put in camps"
Fixed that for you
Thank you for putting trans people in camps.
Thank you for bombing children
"I can't believe the US is giving bombs to Israel! 😤
Time to elect the guy who will send American jets to run sorties on Palestine for Israel directly! 😊"
Christ, you lot would've sat on your asses during WW2 because "The British Empire is bad too!" as Hitler genocided all the minorities he wanted in Europe.
I didn't elect him. In fact, I very proudly voted against that PoS. But please, keep making up facts about me. That sounds super productive, and will totally get me to vote for the genocidal, child-killing party next time around.
For Harris?
No, I very proudly voted against that PoS as well
Yeah people might be in camps, but at least you have your feeling of moral superiority. Yay you!
Ah, yes, the mythical third-party voter that is both: A) So small as to not be worth catering to, and B) So numerous that they can swing the election any way that they want.
Exit polling shows that, if 3rd party voters had voted for Harris, she still would have lost. Maybe next time, the Dems should run a serious campaign to try and win voters over.
Narrator: "He did in fact vote for this."
So not only was I correct in saying
But your whinging about
Is pointless because you were never going to vote Dem anyway, since you couldn't even bring yourself to vote Dem even for the sake of opposition to the genocide you supposedly care so much about and against literal Nazis.
As a trans person, how dare you use my people's name to justify genocide. Most trans people saw right through that shit, as they realized that a party that was willing to sacrifice one minority group on the pyre would be willing to do so to another. And...well..that's exactly what happened. The same corporate Dems that enabled genocide are now tripping over themselves to eagerly join the rollback of the rights of trans people.
Hey guess what? More than one actor can be at fault at once! Yes, really!
But you lot refuse to put any blame on those poor, innocent non-voters who just wanted a little holsum fascism for accelerationist reasons 🥺
No, I blame the voters that chose this, and the politicians who ran on it. I also blame the party that built out the infrastucture that fascism is currently using for all of this. I don't blame the ones that voted against it.
I never expected you to be such a supporter of Harris voters!
That's because you've never been interested in my views. You seem to be only interested in taking cheap shots, instead of understanding.
That was sarcasm, genius.
But you were sarcastically correct, because you would rather make things up and yell at people, than fully understand their position, genius
I see I'll have to explain this in simpler terms.
I'm pointing out that the only people who voted against fascism were Harris voters, not the non-voters you're asspatting.
Nope, plenty of 3rd party voters also voted against fascism. I know, because I am one of them.
If Harris wanted me to vote for her, she should have run on policies that I (and most americans) want, instead of policies that I (and most americans) do not want.
Third party votes in a presidential election are effectively virtue signaling. And nothing more. One of the many things that it signals is that you didn't really care who wins. Whether they are Fascist or not. Or that you were hyperbolic / disingenuous in calling them both fascist. Which don't get me wrong Democratic Leadership really seems far too comfortable with the fascists. But they certainly aren't the same.
It is still your god-given right as a voter to use your vote in that way. Though people are right to point out that you didn't show any sort of solidarity against the fascists. The Republicans margin of victory was so thin. This was literally the hypothetical everyone talked to you all about without end. Where you could have made the difference. But chose not to.
Correct. I don't believe that I ever said otherwise. I was signalling that I wanted the US to stop bombing children, backing a genocide, sacrificing the poor and working-class for the sake of the rich, etc etc.
Incorrect. I was signalling that I wanted both of them to lose.
I'm pretty sure that I never said that both of them were fascist. Please point out to me where I said that, and I will correct it.
Agreed. I'm not sure why you bring that up, as I never said that they were the same.
No, they are incorrect. I tried pushing the Democrats to win by picking popular platforms, which they refused to do. They chose to stick with losing on an unpopular platform, rather than picking up more popular platforms to win. I wanted them to do this so that a "part for the people" would win, and the fascists would lose.
Then the Democrats should have put in a real effort to pick up more voters, instead of pushing voters away. People were very clear about what they wanted from the Democrats, but Harris' response was "I'm speaking" instead.
If all of the 3rd party voters backed Harris, she still would have lost. It seems to me that running a campaign of unpopular polices, and unpopular candidates on the coat-tails of an unpopular president is why they lost. They chose this, not me.
I love bringing this point up. Shit libs have no retort. They have no choice but to look at the mythical four kind of voter: the non-voters!
Instead, they chased after the other active, sizable voting base, which blew up in their face.
I don't know if Democrats have dropped the ball this hard ever in American history.
I kinda feel bad for the people that blame third-party voters, actually. I get that they are angry and frustrated, and they should be. But they are upset at the wrong people. Instead of being upset at the voters who couldn't stomach such a terrible candidate/party, they should be mad at the candidate/party for choosing to be so terrible and losing so many voters.
Sorry that you're in denial, I understand being a Nazi enabler is hard to take.
Says the person that keeps telling others that voting against genocide was bad.
I very clearly voted against the Nazis, but you clearly voted for genocide. I'm sorry that is hard for you to accept.
A gay Nazi isn't so far from a Nazi, bud
You're unbearable. No wonder Lemmy.world defederated from the other socialist spheres on Lemmy. Y'all have a bubble that you need kept intact.
Let me guess, you don't endorse Zohran Mamdani?
On the contrary, I adore Mr. Mamdani.
But I guess someone thinking that supporting genocide is bad even if you do it while pinky-promising you're a leftist is confusing for someone who bootlicks campist instances that play apologist for the Uyghur and Ukrainian genocides.